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AP at the range
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:41 pm
by steelbuttplate
I got a little '54 black tip for the M-1 in a trade, tried a few today. The first round punched clean thru. The second (middle) was Greek HXP just for comparison, cracked the steel on the back side. The third, wow the penetrator stuck halfway, doesn't seem to be a scratch on it. The railroad measured slightly over 1/2 inch there.
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Sat Jan 22, 2022 9:20 pm
by tomaustin
any of those three would make a fellow change the direction in which he was headed......
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:20 am
by steelbuttplate
The round that stuck, you can see where it grazed the underside of the track, changing the impact enough to give it the downhill position you can see that it stopped in. I wonder how many bodies without armor = 1/2 inch steel. Has anybody ever shot any 3/4 ?
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 8:13 am
by SA1911a1
I got about 20 rounds of the black-tip stuff some years ago and haven't fired any yet. I am saving it for the day that I need to put down a sick car.
What is amazing is that I watched a video, advertising a "bullet-proof" vest and it stopped the black tip fired from about 50'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mmy2ywMl5iI
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:17 am
by Junk Yard Dog
RR rail? You wasted that? Cut it up into small sections and sell it as little anvils on eBay. I was getting 35-45 a chunk a few years back before I ran out of rail. Not easy shit to saw up.
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2022 5:09 pm
by steelbuttplate
Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:17 am
RR rail? You wasted that? Cut it up into small sections and sell it as little anvils on eBay. I was getting 35-45 a chunk a few years back before I ran out of rail. Not easy shit to saw up.
. This is one of my anvils, just with two more holes in it now. That's my railroad spike twister stuck on the end. Steel core Mosin ammo had about the same effect as a regular M1 round.
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:23 pm
by Jbob
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:20 am
The round that stuck, you can see where it grazed the underside of the track, changing the impact enough to give it the downhill position you can see that it stopped in. I wonder how many bodies without armor = 1/2 inch steel. Has anybody ever shot any 3/4 ?
Several years back while at Camp Perry I picked up a few hundred rounds of each type. Playing around at the shop a little later with the AP shooting it through a O3A3 it would go through 3/4 steel plates off the hydraulic press very easy. After a few rounds of that I (C) clamped two plates together and shot that at about 25 yards and it would almost go through the 1 1/2". A couple rounds of that and one of the bolts came back at me and hit the side of the building behind me. That was the end of my testing for a long time now. I've very surprised the general public can purchase that bad azz chit.
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:45 pm
by steelbuttplate
Jbob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:23 pm
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:20 am
The round that stuck, you can see where it grazed the underside of the track, changing the impact enough to give it the downhill position you can see that it stopped in. I wonder how many bodies without armor = 1/2 inch steel. Has anybody ever shot any 3/4 ?
Several years back while at Camp Perry I picked up a few hundred rounds of each type. Playing around at the shop a little later with the AP shooting it through a O3A3 it would go through 3/4 steel plates off the hydraulic press very easy. After a few rounds of that I (C) clamped two plates together and shot that at about 25 yards and it would almost go through the 1 1/2". A couple rounds of that and one of the bolts came back at me and hit the side of the building behind me. That was the end of my testing for a long time now. I've very surprised the general public can purchase that bad azz chit.
I had a penetrator whiz by my head, that came back off of a 5 lb. steel block, loose, that got knocked off the stump onto the ground. That seemed to defy some physics laws. I shoot these minimum 50 yds. now.
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:13 pm
by Jbob
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:45 pm
Jbob wrote: ↑Tue Mar 01, 2022 5:23 pm
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:20 am
The round that stuck, you can see where it grazed the underside of the track, changing the impact enough to give it the downhill position you can see that it stopped in. I wonder how many bodies without armor = 1/2 inch steel. Has anybody ever shot any 3/4 ?
Several years back while at Camp Perry I picked up a few hundred rounds of each type. Playing around at the shop a little later with the AP shooting it through a O3A3 it would go through 3/4 steel plates off the hydraulic press very easy. After a few rounds of that I (C) clamped two plates together and shot that at about 25 yards and it would almost go through the 1 1/2". A couple rounds of that and one of the bolts came back at me and hit the side of the building behind me. That was the end of my testing for a long time now. I've very surprised the general public can purchase that bad azz chit.
I had a penetrator whiz by my head, that came back off of a 5 lb. steel block, loose, that got knocked off the stump onto the ground. That seemed to defy some physics laws. I shoot these minimum 50 yds. now.
I'm sure by now everyone's seen this but it's worth another look.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QokV7HzJhG4
Re: AP at the range
Posted: Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:48 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
I shot that crap from 100 yards minimum, and had a wall of sandbags in front of my bench. Never had one come back that I know of, but always expected one.