The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum

SA1911a1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:16 pm Prices have been too dynamic for me to keep up with. I would guess a grand for a typical Tula sniper, and maybe a little more for the [SA] stamp, but that may not be accurate.

Darryl wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:52 pm One fake sniper on GB going for $1,600

One for $3,699.99 that the mount seems questionable
I
didn't see the one with the SA marks on it, but, that would be one of the rarest PU snipers if it was really a Finn capture. There are maybe as many Finn captures as I have fingers on one hand.

Most are going from around $900 to $1,500 these days. I'm talking about standard refurbished Russian PU snipers.

Darryl

Willchef wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:23 pm

Darryl wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:52 pm One fake sniper on GB going for $1,600

One for $3,699.99 that the mount seems questionable
I
didn't see the one with the SA marks on it, but, that would be one of the rarest PU snipers if it was really a Finn capture. There are maybe as many Finn captures as I have fingers on one hand.

Most are going from around $900 to $1,500 these days. I'm talking about standard refurbished Russian PU snipers.

Darryl

Which one is the fake?

Here's the link for the Finn.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/896552583

Miller Tyme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 7:18 am

Willchef wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 7:23 pm

Darryl wrote: ↑Mon Apr 05, 2021 6:52 pm One fake sniper on GB going for $1,600

One for $3,699.99 that the mount seems questionable
I
didn't see the one with the SA marks on it, but, that would be one of the rarest PU snipers if it was really a Finn capture. There are maybe as many Finn captures as I have fingers on one hand.

Most are going from around $900 to $1,500 these days. I'm talking about standard refurbished Russian PU snipers.

Darryl

Which one is the fake?

Here's the link for the Finn.

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/896552583

Fake as my ex-SIL Boobs, a CAI put together.

The $3699.99 is a former banned member of this forum and the well known owner of "A sniper so rare it will cause a controversy."

https://www.gunboards.com/threads/a-sni ... sy.321767/

Miller Tyme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:29 am Yep, thats what I meant, CAI put together, the other one might be legit, but i dont even bother looking at that sellers stuff with his past track record. There are 4 or 5 sellers on Gbroker that could be selling a legit sniper and I wont know because I ignore there listings.

Willchef wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 9:10 am

Miller Tyme wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 8:29 am Yep, thats what I meant, CAI put together, the other one might be legit, but i dont even bother looking at that sellers stuff with his past track record. There are 4 or 5 sellers on Gbroker that could be selling a legit sniper and I wont know because I ignore there listings.

Gotcha, so generally its best to avoid LSB's stuff?

Darryl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:06 pm Here is my take on the "SA" marked PU.

One,
The Finn's never made a PU sniper. They may have captured a few, but those examples are extremely rare.
Here is my problem with the one on GB.

The Russians always used barrel shanks with the "proof marks" moved up to the top or pushed all the way to the right side in some cases. They never had "proof marks" on the left side where the scope number went (on Izhevsk rifles).
As you can see, the "proof marks" are on the left side of this rifle.
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THAT, is a dead give away that the rifle was a standard M91/30 that has been "made into" a sniper.rifle.

Russians (even when pushed) always took a little care in their machining on PU snipers.
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Also, 1942 PU snipers are a fairly rare deal. But not impossible to find.

To me, this is a very questionable sniper rifle. Also, that SA mark is a little "fiiy" to me.

Darryl

Darryl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 06, 2021 12:06 pm Here is my take on the "SA" marked PU.

One,
The Finn's never made a PU sniper. They may have captured a few, but those examples are extremely rare.
Here is my problem with the one on GB.

The Russians always used barrel shanks with the "proof marks" moved up to the top or pushed all the way to the right side in some cases. They never had "proof marks" on the left side where the scope number went (on Izhevsk rifles).
As you can see, the "proof marks" are on the left side of this rifle.
.
side.png
.
THAT, is a dead give away that the rifle was a standard M91/30 that has been "made into" a sniper.rifle.

Russians (even when pushed) always took a little care in their machining on PU snipers.
.
top.png
.
Also, 1942 PU snipers are a fairly rare deal. But not impossible to find.

To me, this is a very questionable sniper rifle. Also, that SA mark is a little "fiiy" to me.

Darryl

SA1911a1 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 07, 2021 7:47 am Darryl, the first thing that raised my eyebrows on this piece was the scope mount, was I barking up the wrong tree?