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Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 3:09 pm
by Haphazird
Bought this a year ago. Did quick research as there was another buyer involved. Appears to be a tulsky, and legit. I still research to appease my mind, and wallet. My main concern is the stock. Cutout aint so pretty, and brass ends on handguard?
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:43 pm
by TnBuckeye
The REAL experts will be along shortly, but given what I can see, it looks a LOT like my Tulsky import PU. I would lean toward yours being one of those. The brass hand guard caps are interesting.
Again, more seasoned veterans will be along shortly to correct me in that assumption if necessary.
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 6:52 pm
by Haphazird
I fully agree on the tulsky import. But with people saying 99% of snipers are fake, im looking for 2nd, and 3rd, and 4th opions lol
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 7:29 pm
by Darryl
How about more then one photo?
That import mark in important, but so is the rest of the rifle.. That rifle could be one of thousands imported by that importer that were not PU snipers.
So, how is it possible to tell it is real or not? You can't
Darryl
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:27 pm
by Haphazird
Try clicking the left/right arrows on the pic
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:51 pm
by ffuries
Haphazird wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:27 pm
Try clicking the left/right arrows on the pic
Well I'll be danged there are more pictures, 16 in total. Have to excuse some of us (Me included) we're not use to pictures being done this way. Not a bad thing mind you, just some of us are old dogs and we're a little slow learning new tricks.
Welcome to the forum, now we know there are more pictures hopefully those in the know can give you the answers you seek.
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 2:29 am
by Miller Tyme
ffuries wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:51 pm
Haphazird wrote: ↑Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:27 pm
Try clicking the left/right arrows on the pic
Well I'll be danged there are more pictures, 16 in total. Have to excuse some of us (Me included) we're not use to pictures being done this way. Not a bad thing mind you, just some of us are old dogs and we're a little slow learning new tricks.
Welcome to the forum, now we know there are more pictures hopefully those in the know can give you the answers you seek.
+1, not use to these new fangled ways of posting pics. Unfortunately I will need to look at them on something other than my phone as they are pretty small on my phone.
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:42 am
by Haphazird
Im with you all. Took me almost two hours to get them on here, cause im a techhalogical idiot. Could only get two pics from this site. Did some googling, and imgr seemed to be the popular way. Sheep mentality lol!
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:11 pm
by Darryl
It is a Tulsky imported authentic M91/30 PU sniper rifle.
Those import marks on the right side give it away.
Scope looks to be a replacement scope.
Scope (I think) was made around 1943 by Progress in Omsk?, Russia.
Darryl
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:46 pm
by Miller Tyme
Darryl wrote: ↑Wed Feb 24, 2021 1:11 pm
It is a Tulsky imported authentic M91/30 PU sniper rifle.
Those import marks on the right side give it away.
Scope looks to be a replacement scope.
Scope (I think) was made around 1943 by Progress in Omsk?, Russia.
Darryl
I agree with Darryl, and you are correct on the scope Darryl, late 1943 Progress/Omsk.
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 6:57 pm
by Haphazird
So does the refurb take place in 43? Or, just who knows? Are tulskys pretty consistent, or do they run the gamut?
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:10 pm
by Darryl
No, the refurb was done much later in the 60's and some in the 70's.
Tulsky ...... Yes, they look a lot alike and are handled the same way. Remember, Tulsky did very little to the rifle except mark the heck out of it with their import marks.
app.php/page/67
Darryl
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 7:23 pm
by Haphazird
So its a legit sniper from 43, as i assumed. But what about the stock? Im not sure its not a replacement, how would you tell? The cutouts seem sketchy.
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:05 am
by Miller Tyme
The stock is a post war replacement, Izhevsk used 1/2 liners on there snipers in 1943
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:50 pm
by tomaustin
the woodwork looks as if it was done by hand with a pocket knife..........
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Thu Feb 25, 2021 7:23 pm
by Darryl
tomaustin wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 5:50 pm
the woodwork looks as if it was done by hand with a pocket knife..........
What are you talking about? It looks like any other nice M91/30 stock.
Darryl
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 6:17 pm
by DocAitch
I am curious about the use of “tulsky/Tulsky” here.
What does it mean in this context?
Is there an importer or rifle smith called Tulsky?
DocAitch
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 10:01 pm
by Darryl
Yes, the "T" in the circle inside the triangle is the Tulsky Patronny logo. They exported them with the help of PW Arms and IO who were in the USA and are importers) and sold here in the USA by SAMCO, AIM, Classic Arms, and Royal Tiger Imports.
app.php/page/67
This is one reason we like to see the import marks on snipers. It tell a story and authenticates (along with all the features) that the PU sniper is real.
Darryl
Re: Another pu authenticity check
Posted: Sat Mar 13, 2021 6:53 pm
by DocAitch
Thanks.
I was confused because I can sound out the Cyrillic ( I was a linguist in the Army) and “Tulskiy” is stamped on the Imperial Russian rifles for Tula Arsenal.
Interesting read, thanks for the reference.
DocAicth