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Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:41 pm
by ARTX
Hello all,new to the groups but a long time collector/shooter. I was invited by a buddy to look at a massive collection of milsurps. Needless to say when I first walked into the house I was bloown away. I can honestly say I haven't seen so many non import marked milsurps in one place. Some with paperwork including Sniper.
I couldn't resist the Mosin Snipers so I had to buy them.
After thorough inspection there are indeed no import marks. I was thinking possible Vietnam bringback, I hope to get with the people I bought the rifles from so if they find anything to let me know.

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Sat Jan 02, 2021 10:04 pm
by Jeronimo62
Very cool looking Tula!
Can’t tell the scope maker, only that it was refurbished in ‘53.
Since the receiver also has a refurb mark, the scope and rifle might have been together for quite some time!

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Sun Jan 03, 2021 7:33 am
by ARTX
Thank you for your assessment. I agree,the gentleman who had this collection had to have spent yrs amassing his guns. I fell in love with the Mosins I bought from the estate. The other Sniper that I posted here was from that same collection. From fins,Remington, Westinghouse this guy had it all.

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Mon Jan 25, 2021 9:16 pm
by CTRCSWIW 126
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My novice two cents leads me to think that the bolt is not original to the rifle; I have seen the "fonts are different" regarding various numbered components as indicative of something not being original but those comments are what I base my guess on. Again, I am a novice but it's interesting to me that "EC" prefix is not stamped on the bolt along with the 767, but I don't know enough to comment further.

Beautiful rifle, belayed congrats! Any update on the history of the rifle from those you purchased it from?

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:05 pm
by ARTX
Thanks, I was able to snap a few pics tonight

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 4:41 am
by Miller Tyme
Pull the hand gaurd, bet it is import marked there. It is a new import, you can tell by the proof mark on the bolt. This mark is required to be on firearms exported from the Russian Federation. I believe the number to the right of the ГИС is the export certification year of the particular firearm.

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:17 am
by ARTX
I have taken this gun down,no import marks anywhere to be found.. only mark I see looks like a square backwards C

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2021 6:59 am
by Miller Tyme
The <rnc> mark on the bolt is a form of an export mark, but there is a chance the rifle itself got missed.
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Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:34 pm
by DocAitch
New guy here.
I think that “squared C” on the barrel may be a proof mark. That letter is a “P” in the Roman alphabet or “Pi” in the Greek . In the Cyrillic alphabet, it looks like a box with the bottom missing.
DocAitch

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:56 am
by SA1911a1
It is a very nice rifle. Congratulations.

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:02 am
by SA1911a1
I was searching the Bungroper yesterday for PU snipers, just to keep up with the market. It looks as if their is a bunch of reproductions, and few original PUs on the market. The sellers say everything except that they are reproductions. A lot of new buyers are going to get burned and then be put off of collecting for good. It is a shame. If it is a reproduction, if it is a fantasy piece, then it should be made clear. I hate dishonesty.

Since I couldn't get much info, does anyone have a good idea of what current market price is for a common refurb PU now days?

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:41 am
by Miller Tyme
A common Russian refurb today can occasionally be had for $900.00, but usually they are 1k and up, depending on year and manufacturer.

Hungarian manufacturer, and Polish/Yugo refurbs are all over the $1500.00 mark.

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:42 pm
by SA1911a1
Miller Tyme wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:41 am A common Russian refurb today can occasionally be had for $900.00, but usually they are 1k and up, depending on year and manufacturer.

Hungarian manufacturer, and Polish/Yugo refurbs are all over the $1500.00 mark.
I only have one, and when I bout it for $600.00 I was afraid I would never get my money out of it, if I needed to sell. ;)

It is still interesting to me, that the more common, wartime rifles have increased in value three to four times, while the sniper only doubled.

Re: Non import marked Mosin Sniper

Posted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 5:53 pm
by Miller Tyme
SA1911a1 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 11, 2021 4:42 pm
Miller Tyme wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:41 am A common Russian refurb today can occasionally be had for $900.00, but usually they are 1k and up, depending on year and manufacturer.

Hungarian manufacturer, and Polish/Yugo refurbs are all over the $1500.00 mark.
I only have one, and when I bout it for $600.00 I was afraid I would never get my money out of it, if I needed to sell. ;)

It is still interesting to me, that the more common, wartime rifles have increased in value three to four times, while the sniper only doubled.
Yes, but a $69.00 rifle tripling only increases in value $138.00, your sniper by doubling has increased by $600.00 :thumbsup: