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Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:05 pm
by SJHUK
Hi All....I hope this message finds you all safe & well....
I am trying to locate a broken case extractor tool but all the ones for sale appear to be in the U.S. & they will not ship to the United Kingdom.
Does anyone know of a supplier in Europe where I can obtain one?.... or possibly two would be great as a fellow member of my club needs one as well.
Thanks...
Kindest regards,
Stuart
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:48 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Did they say why they wouldn't ship a tool to the UK? Is it a Covid 19 thing? Have you tried eBay? I have shipped numerous auto parts to the UK, and bought antique phonographs and parts from UK sellers without difficulty. The shipping is not cheap, but no more a problem than the many other countries I have shipped to. Covid 19 has slowed or eliminated some shipping options when shipping internationally.
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:40 pm
by awalker1829
Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:48 pm
Did they say why they wouldn't ship a tool to the UK? Is it a Covid 19 thing? Have you tried eBay? I have shipped numerous auto parts to the UK, and bought antique phonographs and parts from UK sellers without difficulty. The shipping is not cheap, but no more a problem than the many other countries I have shipped to. Covid 19 has slowed or eliminated some shipping options when shipping internationally.
A lot of sellers are afraid of running afoul of United States Code 922 and exports regulations. They just make a blanket statement that they won’t sell internationally, rather than read through the codes. I doubt that a broken shell extractor is prohibited under USC or ITAR.
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:18 am
by SJHUK
Hi All......thanks for your replies....it's much appreciated.
None of the sellers within the U.S. on eBay will ship to the U.K. as the part is deemed to be prohibited for export under U.S. law as apparently it's deemed to be part of a firearm, crazy but true!
Even Liberty Tree Collectors from whom I have ordered from in the past no longer ship internationally at all.....& I have to say surprisingly, I received a very abrupt response from them when I asked the question why....
I firmly believe that there is a strain of Covid-19 that ignores the respiratory system & attacks the part of the brain that deals with common sense....it mainly affects politicians & legislators worldwide. I also collect WW2 German daggers & I bought one from a very reputable dealer in the U.S.; it was returned to them as the airline refused to accept it.....the world has indeed gone mad.
My kindest regards to you all......
Stuart
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:05 am
by SJHUK
Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 3:48 pm
Did they say why they wouldn't ship a tool to the UK? Is it a Covid 19 thing? Have you tried eBay? I have shipped numerous auto parts to the UK, and bought antique phonographs and parts from UK sellers without difficulty. The shipping is not cheap, but no more a problem than the many other countries I have shipped to. Covid 19 has slowed or eliminated some shipping options when shipping internationally.
Hi...I don't think it's a Covid thing although it probably doesn't help. Not one of the eBay sellers will ship to the United Kingdom. It's apparently because they deem the part as part of a firearm & prohibited under U.S. law to export it. Whether it is or not I don't know but there you are...
Auto parts & most other items would be fine I'm sure.....
Madness & snowflakes reign........
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:10 am
by SA1911a1
SJHUK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:18 am
Hi All......thanks for your replies....it's much appreciated.
None of the sellers within the U.S. on eBay will ship to the U.K. as the part is deemed to be prohibited for export under U.S. law as apparently it's deemed to be part of a firearm, crazy but true!
Even Liberty Tree Collectors from whom I have ordered from in the past no longer ship internationally at all.....& I have to say surprisingly, I received a very abrupt response from them when I asked the question why....
I firmly believe that there is a strain of Covid-19 that ignores the respiratory system & attacks the part of the brain that deals with common sense....it mainly affects politicians & legislators worldwide. I also collect WW2 German daggers & I bought one from a very reputable dealer in the U.S.; it was returned to them as the airline refused to accept it.....the world has indeed gone mad.
My kindest regards to you all......
Stuart
Stuart, you give us too much credit. We can be dumb-asses without a pandemic.
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:49 am
by SJHUK
SA1911a1 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 4:10 am
SJHUK wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 3:18 am
Hi All......thanks for your replies....it's much appreciated.
None of the sellers within the U.S. on eBay will ship to the U.K. as the part is deemed to be prohibited for export under U.S. law as apparently it's deemed to be part of a firearm, crazy but true!
Even Liberty Tree Collectors from whom I have ordered from in the past no longer ship internationally at all.....& I have to say surprisingly, I received a very abrupt response from them when I asked the question why....
I firmly believe that there is a strain of Covid-19 that ignores the respiratory system & attacks the part of the brain that deals with common sense....it mainly affects politicians & legislators worldwide. I also collect WW2 German daggers & I bought one from a very reputable dealer in the U.S.; it was returned to them as the airline refused to accept it.....the world has indeed gone mad.
My kindest regards to you all......
Stuart
Stuart, you give us too much credit. We can be dumb-asses without a pandemic.
now ain't that the truth!
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:56 am
by awalker1829
USC 922 does not cover accessories that are not part of a firearm. ITAR is the possible concern. Maybe sometime I will get around to reading it. The problem is that no licensee wants to take the risk of running afoul of a statute and becoming a test case. Even if you do eventually prevail, it's expensive and time consuming.
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney. If you need legal advice, you should obtain it from a licensed attorney. That said, I was trained in college to do legal research and I am very certain that USC 922 is not the issue. A broken shell extractor is nothing more than a tool, it is not a part of any firearm.
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 11:46 am
by SJHUK
awalker1829 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:56 am
USC 922 does not cover accessories that are not part of a firearm. ITAR is the possible concern. Maybe sometime I will get around to reading it. The problem is that no licensee wants to take the risk of running afoul of a statute and becoming a test case. Even if you do eventually prevail, it's expensive and time consuming.
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney. If you need legal advice, you should obtain it from a licensed attorney. That said, I was trained in college to do legal research and I am very certain that USC 922 is not the issue. A broken shell extractor is nothing more than a tool, it is not a part of any firearm.
Hi...I'm sure you are correct, that's what I think too but I guess the sellers have enough trade within the U.S. to not want to take the risk & if I were in their shoes I'd probably do the same!
Take care...
Stuart
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 2:19 pm
by Igrlik
Try into EU, for example Czech Republic
extractor or
another extractor
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:38 am
by SJHUK
Thanks....I think I may be sorted now!
Cheers...
Stuart
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:39 am
by SA1911a1
awalker1829 wrote: ↑Fri Nov 13, 2020 10:56 am
USC 922 does not cover accessories that are not part of a firearm. ITAR is the possible concern. Maybe sometime I will get around to reading it. The problem is that no licensee wants to take the risk of running afoul of a statute and becoming a test case. Even if you do eventually prevail, it's expensive and time consuming.
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney. If you need legal advice, you should obtain it from a licensed attorney. That said, I was trained in college to do legal research and I am very certain that USC 922 is not the issue. A broken shell extractor is nothing more than a tool, it is not a part of any firearm.
The core of the issue is that the sellers do not want their employees making decisions on what is legal and what violates the law. They would rather lose the sell than have to face legal issues. It is just easier and safer to issue a blanket, "NO."
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:49 pm
by ffuries
SJHUK wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:38 am
Thanks....I think I may be sorted now!
Cheers...
Stuart
So what was the outcome....?
Re: Mosin Rifle 7.62x54R broken case extractor tool
Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 1:25 am
by SJHUK
ffuries wrote: ↑Thu Nov 19, 2020 10:49 pm
SJHUK wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:38 am
Thanks....I think I may be sorted now!
Cheers...
Stuart
So what was the outcome....?
Hi....another member has offered to buy 2 & post them to me, a really kind gesture that is much appreciated! I will of course reimburse his costs but all the same, people like that restore your faith in human nature.....