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Semi auto thought.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:56 pm
by steelbuttplate
If you were to grab the slide of a semi auto pointed right in your reach but not at you, with a death grip, and it fired, would it cycle another round ? :bonk:

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:42 pm
by millman
I would think probably not. You will get hurt trying to find out

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2020 8:12 am
by qz2026
I don't think you'd be alive to know...

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 1:51 am
by Ironnewt
Dep ends on a lot of factors, Buttttt, the round coming out has to go somewhere
Dat one gonna hurt.

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2020 5:48 am
by steelbuttplate
millman wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 7:42 pm I would think probably not. You will get hurt trying to find out
Thats what I'm thinking, if you're in a fight and an automatic comes out and the first round hits the ground because you have a good hold on it, it wouldn't cycle. I'm not gonna test this theory. It's a Last ditch scenario.

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 8:50 am
by awalker1829
Maybe and maybe not. In that scenario, your goal should be controlling the direction of the muzzle-keeping it pointed away from you as much as possible.

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:44 am
by Igrlik
Steel - would not cycle. And you will not be hurt by slide (not much - depends on front blade sharp edge) ! Remember german WWII "last shot" from barrel and slide of disassembled but loaded P08? It is nothing harmfull shoot it from hand - recoil is very mild.

Just look: shot

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:54 pm
by millman
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 11:02 pm
by bogozzo
I'm with ironnewt. Depends on many factors. The energy in the round being the main one I'd consider. That would relate then to compensating recoil spring strength, gas port size if applicable etc. I'd perhaps try a .22 with standard (~700FPS / 36-40 grain) ammo, but I wouldn't start the experiment with say 230 grain .45ACP

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 1:54 am
by AMCHornet
It's going to fire, but I think it would jam the action and prevent it from firing again until you let go. Your grip would either prevent the slide from racking back, or prevent the slide from sliding forward into battery. Either prevents the second shot from happening.

I think it would hurt your hand. Probably not severely, but it wouldn't be pleasant.

If you were in a hand to hand struggle with somebody who was trying to shoot you, like if you were struggling around on the floor for control of the gun, grabbing the slide and holding the gun away from you might be a pretty good tactic to save yourself from being shot. They might fire a shot, but the gun would not be able to fire again, perhaps allowing you to gain control of the situation.

Something to try on our own? No...maybe with heavy gloves. Something to keep in the back of your mind? Yes.

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 7:20 am
by SA1911a1
I doubt it would eject and reload properly. If you held the slide solidly, the frame would attempt to recoil forward, it would probably be painful on the trigger finger. My personal philosophy is to avoid such experiments, as well as avoiding gunfights at point-blank range. I would rather stand back, behind cover and shoot the victim in the back, multiple times if necessary. Survival has no ethics. ;)

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 8:52 am
by Junk Yard Dog
There are no rules in street fighting, dirt in the eye's, kick in the nutsack, bullet in the back, whatever it takes as the prize is survival.

Re: Semi auto thought.

Posted: Mon Feb 01, 2021 11:46 am
by boltaction
Hello, ^^^^^^^ Very, true. Jim the Boss.
That's my way at looking at it also(street fight). You don't ever know what the others guys going too do. So, it's your job too come out of it alive from the get go... Flight or fight, in that order: if, given the option.
"I feared for my life or great bodily injuries. Therefor, I shot him dead" Officer..... That's my story and I'm sticking with it.