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Bubba

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:11 pm
by Lavitias
Unfortunately it seems bubba is moving on to Sks's now using the same argument theirs so many of them. Youd think people would of learned after the mosins started to dry up.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:51 pm
by awalker1829
My rule of thumb is to never do something to a collectible gun (or any collectible/antique item for that matter) that you cannot undo. If I replace a part on a gun, I keep the original part. That way, if I want to return it to original condition later on, I can do that. There is a distinct difference between that and irrevocably modifying a gun.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Fri Dec 13, 2019 8:39 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Modify it and watch the value of investment drop. Some people can afford to wipe their asses with money, apparently that idiot is one of them. Spend good cash for a rifle then fuck it up so it's worth as much as a single barrel shotgun salvaged off the bottom of a lake after ten years or rusting.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 5:27 am
by bunkysdad
I'd rather have a single barrel shotgun any day than some bubba gump special of a milsurp firearm. Any day I tell ya.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 6:24 am
by SA1911a1
Last night I was poking through Gun Broker and came across an SVT-40 that someone had "Sporterized." Along with stock chopping, they cut off the end of the barrel including the gas system. It was a study on how to turn a $1,500.00 gun into six pounds of trash.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:35 pm
by M39 Shooter
I believe the worse i have seen is a sporterized Garand. Someone gave it a southwestern theme. Ground off the rear sight assy. And much more atrocities...

Re: Bubba

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 7:16 pm
by steelbuttplate
M39 Shooter wrote: ↑Sat Dec 14, 2019 2:35 pm I believe the worse i have seen is a sporterized Garand. Someone gave it a southwestern theme. Ground off the rear sight assy. And much more atrocities...
A guy walks up to table today at the gunshow with a sporterized 03 A3 today and asked what's it worth. I said not even $200 to me, all I mess with is military surplus. He says, that's what this is. I say no, it used to be before somebody put that stock on it and drilled two holes in the receiver. Now it's just another tired, weathered old rifle.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:05 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Was it a legit A3 or something put together using investment cast receiver and leftover Remington military contract parts? I spot these every now and then, mostly with '03 type receivers, junk. After both wars there were huge quantities of leftover parts from the weapons contracts that ended up being sold as scrap. Outfits like Bannerman bought them up and tried to turn a buck making some sort of rifle or shotgun out of them. The first M1 carbine clones in the early 50's were made using many original leftover GI parts mounted on a commercially produced receiver.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2019 2:21 pm
by M39 Shooter
Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Sun Dec 15, 2019 8:05 pm Was it a legit A3 or something put together using investment cast receiver and leftover Remington military contract parts? I spot these every now and then, mostly with '03 type receivers, junk. After both wars there were huge quantities of leftover parts from the weapons contracts that ended up being sold as scrap. Outfits like Bannerman bought them up and tried to turn a buck making some sort of rifle or shotgun out of them. The first M1 carbine clones in the early 50's were made using many original leftover GI parts mounted on a commercially produced receiver.
Fed Ordinance , oh yea crapola receiver. I`ve saved a few Springfields over the years. Getting lucky they just changed the stock and didn`t mess with the sights. Used to be able to find the stocks and hardware at garage sales and flea markets.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:43 am
by Lavitias
While on this note thoughts on this restoration I get why he did it but he also destroyed quite a bit of history in the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4_XFr16O5o

Re: Bubba

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:53 am
by SA1911a1
Lavitias wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:43 am While on this note thoughts on this restoration I get why he did it but he also destroyed quite a bit of history in the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4_XFr16O5o
I don't think that he improved the looks of the gun in the process. It just looks like another back porch sand and poly to me.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:17 am
by steelbuttplate
SA1911a1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:53 am
Lavitias wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:43 am While on this note thoughts on this restoration I get why he did it but he also destroyed quite a bit of history in the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4_XFr16O5o
I don't think that he improved the looks of the gun in the process. It just looks like another back porch sand and poly to me.
Nothing wrong with the stock the way it was. No breaks or bad cracks. He's a Yoututbe Bubba, teaching other Bubba's to fuck up a battle rifle.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:09 pm
by steelbuttplate
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:17 am
SA1911a1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:53 am
Lavitias wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:43 am While on this note thoughts on this restoration I get why he did it but he also destroyed quite a bit of history in the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4_XFr16O5o
I don't think that he improved the looks of the gun in the process. It just looks like another back porch sand and poly to me.
Nothing wrong with the stock the way it was. No breaks or bad cracks. He's a Yoututbe Bubba, teaching other Bubba's to fuck up a battle rifle.
In the case of the M1 GI carbines I've been watching for a few yrs., it's about $400-600 price difference in one with a sanded stock and one in GI condition. Type 56 will be the same someday.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2020 8:20 pm
by polymerase2
awalker1829 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:51 pm My rule of thumb is to never do something to a collectible gun (or any collectible/antique item for that matter) that you cannot undo. If I replace a part on a gun, I keep the original part. That way, if I want to return it to original condition later on, I can do that. There is a distinct difference between that and irrevocably modifying a gun.
You said it best. If you can't undo it don't do it.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2022 12:50 pm
by Artyom Kvasov
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Thu Dec 19, 2019 7:09 pm
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 7:17 am
SA1911a1 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 5:53 am
Lavitias wrote: ↑Wed Dec 18, 2019 4:43 am While on this note thoughts on this restoration I get why he did it but he also destroyed quite a bit of history in the process.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4_XFr16O5o
I don't think that he improved the looks of the gun in the process. It just looks like another back porch sand and poly to me.
Nothing wrong with the stock the way it was. No breaks or bad cracks. He's a Yoututbe Bubba, teaching other Bubba's to fuck up a battle rifle.
In the case of the M1 GI carbines I've been watching for a few yrs., it's about $400-600 price difference in one with a sanded stock and one in GI condition. Type 56 will be the same someday.
Every year the price of em only goes up. Buy em while they're still "cheap". If only I could have grabbed an SVT when they were around 400...

Re: Bubba

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:54 am
by Darryl
Hey Jim,
Remember when they used to say
"Hell, do what you want to it, It's just a $75 Mosin Nagant and has no collectors value because there are so many of them on the market?

Well, that $74 Mosin is going for over $300 plus now and is harder to find. One that was drilled and tapped is worth the price of the scope now. I wonder how many people are thanking this forums now that we talked them out of butchering them?
How much might it be worth in 10 years (if not bubba'd)?

I see no difference with the SKS rifles now.

Darryl

Re: Bubba

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2022 3:37 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Darryl wrote: ↑Tue Apr 26, 2022 10:54 am Hey Jim,
Remember when they used to say
"Hell, do what you want to it, It's just a $75 Mosin Nagant and has no collectors value because there are so many of them on the market?

Well, that $74 Mosin is going for over $300 plus now and is harder to find. One that was drilled and tapped is worth the price of the scope now. I wonder how many people are thanking this forums now that we talked them out of butchering them?
How much might it be worth in 10 years (if not bubba'd)?

I see no difference with the SKS rifles now.

Darryl
That was the basic message of both this, and the old board, I like to hope most listened.

Re: Bubba

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2022 8:33 pm
by Darryl
Yeah.

Darryl