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M44 Slings

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 11:37 am
by Robertroadking
I have a Soviet M44 , 1945 , that has gone through refurbish arsenal, I want to add a sling to it, I know anything may have been used during service, but what were they usually paired with after refurbished?

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:36 pm
by steelbuttplate
All my refurbished ones came with a standard green canvas strap and dog collars.

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:48 pm
by Robertroadking
By standard do you mean the full length one for 91/30?

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:41 pm
by steelbuttplate
Robertroadking wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:48 pm By standard do you mean the full length one for 91/30?
Yep, I think there all the same .

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:45 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 5:41 pm
Robertroadking wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 4:48 pm By standard do you mean the full length one for 91/30?
Yep, I think there all the same .
No, they do make a slightly shorter sling intended for the carbines. Most sellers don't realize this and sell them as generic Mosin slings so good luck finding one. The Soviets would have issued the rifle with whatever was available, PPSH slings included.

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 8:16 am
by steelbuttplate
I've got the PPS sling on 3 of mine they work fine and look good. I think I put the package slings on those M44( Molots) so I've got 4-5 of them left. Liberty Tree has plenty PPS slings, and what they call M44 or 91/30 slings, I thinks carbine from the picture.

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:55 am
by racerguy00
According to Ratnik in his reference book there were no specific carbine slings made during ww2 but there was some variance in lengths. That's according to the Soviet documents he dug up in their archives.

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 8:02 am
by qz2026
There are definitely shorter slings available for carbines but they're not so easy to come by. The ones I have seem authentic to the period and seem short enough to have been made for this purpose. I even has a leather example. Sure seems to me that these were intentional, yet if so, there would be a lot more of them out there I'd think.

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:06 am
by Robertroadking
I think the junk yard dog’s theory that they were mixed in is very plausible , since the war was near the end when the M44s came out most of the slings were probably made post-war. I found some on eBay by asking the seller to measure the canvas slings they offer, as most don’t have any idea of what they have.

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2019 2:58 pm
by steelbuttplate
Robertroadking wrote: ↑Sun Nov 24, 2019 11:06 am I think the junk yard dog’s theory that they were mixed in is very plausible , since the war was near the end when the M44s came out most of the slings were probably made post-war. I found some on eBay by asking the seller to measure the canvas slings they offer, as most don’t have any idea of what they have.
I was watching part of "Battle of Russia, why we fight", just for slings in use ID. I saw lots of PPS '41 slings in use on carbines. There is footage in there with new Russian troops in '42-'43 carrying new M-38s but I couldn't find it.

Re: M44 Slings

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2019 5:27 am
by Robertroadking
It seems odd to watch a US film praising The USSR. And referring to them as free people fighting for liberty, when they were just defending a dictator who spoke Russian over one who didn’t There are some good candid photos there for reference as opposed to Russian PR that showed off a lot of automatic weapons.