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I'm building an ammo display to show the different rounds the weapons I have are chambered in. Much easier than hunting down an example in the ammo cache or looking online to show them. Some rifles have been factory/arsenal modified/updated to take later rounds. Example the Snider-Enfield, Styer Mannlicher, GEW 88 etc. I'm short 3 examples of cartridges as of now to have one of each round my weapons are or were chambered in. Thank goodness I only have 30 different cartridges to worry about as of right now.

Now with all that BS out of the way, here's my question.

I've got an 1863 dated P1853 Enfield (3 band rifle) later converted to the Snider breech loading system. I've got an original 577 Snider-Enfield cartridge for it, but I also want to display a 577 Enfield Minie' round to show what it was originally chambered for.

My Google-fu has left me utterly confused as to what a period original 577 Minie' would/should look like.

I find some rounds that are smooth, some with grooves, some with a more rounded point while others have a sharper point. Don't know if the variations are due to British made versus American made and or Northern versus Southern made. 

What I'm looking for is a British style 577 Minie' round. Seeing my Enfield was British used not American. 

If anyone can help out with this and explain it to me, I would be sincerely grateful.


Need still:

.557 Enfield (Minie)
8X57 J (8mm Round Nose)
8X50 (8mm original Mannlicher round)

On Hand:

7.62X38
7.62X54
7.62x53 Finnish
7.62X25
7.62X39
7.62X51 NATO
7.7X58 Japanese
7mm
7.5x54 French
8mm Mauser
8mm Mannlicher
303 British
5.56
9mm
380
12 Gauge
44 Magnum
44 Special
36 Ball
22 Long Rifle
22 Long 
22 Short
30-06
6.5X50 Japanese
223
.557 Snider-Enfield
10.4X38 Swiss

Correction made, fat fingered the keyboard.

Need still:

.577 Enfield (Minie)
8X57 J (8mm Round Nose)
8X50 (8mm original Mannlicher round)

On Hand:

7.62X38
7.62X54
7.62x53 Finnish
7.62X25
7.62X39
7.62X51 NATO
7.7X58 Japanese
7mm
7.5x54 French
8mm Mauser
8mm Mannlicher
303 British
5.56
9mm
380
12 Gauge
44 Magnum
44 Special
36 Ball
22 Long Rifle
22 Long 
22 Short
30-06
6.5X50 Japanese
223
.577 Snider-Enfield
10.4X38 Swiss

I'm sending you a .30 carbine round so you'll have to buy a war baby.

Can't tell you a lot about Snider other then I have one very old round with brass base and paper cartridge.


Problem for you is ..... The Snider round was made by dozens of countries over a long period of time.



I do have this.....




I build my own and they look nothing like the originals but are much more accurate.




They use this bullet that is a hybred round.




Try here also .....
https://sites.google.com/site/britmilam ... ern-i-to-v


Hope that can help a little bit!

Darryl



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A nice picture would be appreciated.

What I have learned in the last few days, is that the original British made 577 Enfield Minie was smooth with a cavity. So I now know what I need to look for, see example below. The 8x50R Austrian Hungarian Mannlicher and the 8x57 J cartridges are seeming to be more elusive to find.

So you say that you are building a ammo display. But you really didn't go into detail on what you were going to put you difficult to find cartridges in for display. I would recommend at all costs . Oak is the absolutely worst wood for lead oxide corrosion and speeds up chemical decomposition for the powder and case metals.
May I suggest you buy some small Riker shadow boxes and display this way. You could even go as far as to give it a layer of Renaissance Wax(museum's utilize it ). No cleaning just a little later. Will never have to worry about corrosion and this includes firearms, leather, ivory and more.

Yeah, we've been kicking around different ideas for the display. Such as a plexiglass display shelf etc. Something that can be hung up and show the different rounds for all the weapons we own. Most people couldn't tell you what a Snider-Enfield round looks like etc. This way they can see it, see how big it is etc.

Evil Eddy 1B wrote: ↑Tue Sep 01, 2020 7:26 am So you say that you are building a ammo display. But you really didn't go into detail on what you were going to put you difficult to find cartridges in for display. I would recommend at all costs . Oak is the absolutely worst wood for lead oxide corrosion and speeds up chemical decomposition for the powder and case metals.
May I suggest you buy some small Riker shadow boxes and display this way. You could even go as far as to give it a layer of Renaissance Wax(museum's utilize it ). No cleaning just a little later. Will never have to worry about corrosion and this includes firearms, leather, ivory and more.

Sweet setup and collection you have there.