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1935/51 MO

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:08 am
by Ed55fl
What you think ? all match number except bolt

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 11:10 am
by millman
Probably not.

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 2:29 pm
by steelbuttplate
Who is the importer ?

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:11 pm
by Ed55fl
C.A.I.

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2019 4:55 pm
by Miller Tyme
Bolts wrong, repro. base, re-snipered ex.

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Wed Apr 03, 2019 10:41 am
by zeebill
Fantasy piece some one made to make their ego burst. Maybe $400+ worth of parts. Good shooter for a range gun maybe after trying it out before buying it. Bill

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Thu Apr 04, 2019 8:34 pm
by Ed55fl
How can you tell fake ?

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 5:49 am
by Miller Tyme
Bolt handle bend is all wrong, as to the rest of the gun, the lack of an [SA] stamp leads me to believe its is either an ex-sniper that was redrilled or a humper made to appear to be an ex-sniper.

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 6:01 am
by Darryl
Miller Tyme wrote:Bolt handle bend is all wrong, as to the rest of the gun, the lack of an [SA] stamp leads me to believe its is either an ex-sniper that was redrilled or a humper made to appear to be an ex-sniper.
I agree. Also, where is the serial numbers on the bolt? Are my poor eyes missing them or are there none?

Dolk

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 9:44 am
by Ed55fl
I'm sure you guys are right. Knowing more then I. Bolt does look the one in Vic Thomas's picture .Mount does not look like the on accumount offers. Thanks for the info

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 11:08 am
by Darryl
Ed55fl wrote:I'm sure you guys are right. Knowing more then I. Bolt does look the one in Vic Thomas's picture .Mount does not look like the on accumount offers. Thanks for the info
Miller is making reference to the bend itself (I think). It is not a bend that was made by the Russians. Too rounded off. Also, the bolt wonders away from the stock. On Russiana's the parallel the stock pretty close. There doesn't seem to be an impact mark on the underside of the bolt bend. Russians do. When they are made in the states, they usuall bend the handle with heat and not impact making a rounder bend. Also, when they weld it onto the bolt, it messes up the original serial numbers. So they usually grind them off. And seeing they don't have the correct font to put them back, they leave it blank.

So, tha is just some of what Miller is seeing. He is seeing other things also. So do I.

Dolk

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 1:22 pm
by SA1911a1
Ed55fl wrote:How can you tell fake ?
Not to give you a short, or rude answer, but the guys you are talking to know these things, it comes from years or decades of serious study....If they say it is not real, it is not real.

Re: 1935/51 MO

Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2019 8:55 pm
by Ed55fl
Not doubting their knowledge Just wanted to what to look for in the future I was fooled by the picture of the picture of Vic Thomas's PE Bolt. Looked pretty similar to the untrained