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I've been intrigued by the 1941 Tula ever since finding one years ago at a Cabelas. Unfortunately, I sold that one on GB when I want back to school (would love to buy it back if anyone has it, electrostencil serial RMN001665, receiver marked B*878).

This one was a GB find, CAI import. Looks very similar to the last one I had including the markings on the receiver tang.

Interesting that it was made in Izhevsk not from 1940 Tula barrel, like most of them, barrel at this one was dated 193*

Ratnik wrote:Interesting that it was made in Izhevsk not from 1940 Tula barrel, like most of them, barrel at this one was dated 193*

Yeah, noticed that as well. I wonder if any other examples are dated this way? Pretty sure my last one was a 194X stamp.

I watched that one, the 41 stamp is a little heavy and a little different font. I'm smelling me a Bubba. What's stamped on the tang ?

That is definitely an overstamped date, not necessarily by Bubba, but it is possible.

steelbuttplate wrote:I watched that one, the 41 stamp is a little heavy and a little different font. I'm smelling me a Bubba. What's stamped on the tang ?

You mean the bottom of the tang? There's a picture above of the izhevsk arrow in triangle. I was a little anxious to check the bottom of the tang since there were no picture included in the auction.

Here's the auction:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793946702

I have no doubts it's legit. Bubba would have a hard time faking that rough wartime receiver.

sreyemj wrote:

steelbuttplate wrote:I watched that one, the 41 stamp is a little heavy and a little different font. I'm smelling me a Bubba. What's stamped on the tang ?

You mean the bottom of the tang? There's a picture above of the izhevsk arrow in triangle. I was a little anxious to check the bottom of the tang since there were no picture included in the auction.

Here's the auction:
https://www.gunbroker.com/item/793946702

The other side of the tang, the date ?

steelbuttplate wrote: The other side of the tang, the date ?

Not sure what date you're referring to? Here's the top of the tang and some receiver pictures:

There's a 1941 Tula here with similar markings.

https://forums.gunboards.com/showthread ... ula-91-30s

steelbuttplate wrote:I watched that one, the 41 stamp is a little heavy and a little different font. I'm smelling me a Bubba. What's stamped on the tang ?

Of course it is different font. All so called "1941 Tula's" have restamped or "41" or last "1". Because all of them were built in Izhevsk on base of the leftover (after Tula stopped production of M91/30 in summer 1940) mainly 1940 Tula barrels. So last one or two symbols in the original date were restamped.
Discussed rifle for sure is genuine Autumn 1941 build. Besides, does it it have ПП in circle acceptance at the left side of the barrel shank, just near the wood line?

Ratnik wrote:

steelbuttplate wrote:I watched that one, the 41 stamp is a little heavy and a little different font. I'm smelling me a Bubba. What's stamped on the tang ?

Of course it is different font. All so called "1941 Tula's" have restamped or "41" or last "1". Because all of them were built in Izhevsk on base of the leftover (after Tula stopped production of M91/30 in summer 1940) mainly 1940 Tula barrels. So last one or two symbols in the original date were restamped.
Discussed rifle for sure is genuine Autumn 1941 build. Besides, does it it have ПП in circle acceptance at the left side of the barrel shank, just near the wood line?

Good info , thanks. Did Ishevsk stop date stamping the tang at some point ?

Ratnik wrote:Besides, does it it have ПП in circle acceptance at the left side of the barrel shank, just near the wood line?

sreyemj wrote: Unfortunately, I sold that one on GB when I want back to school (would love to buy it back if anyone has it, electrostencil serial RMN001665, receiver marked B*878).

In a most interesting twist of fate, a forum member contacted me and said he now owned this rifle. After some discussion, he was kind enough to sell it to me and I picked it up this afternoon!

Both together:


Original purchase receipt from Cabelas in 2013, only $149!

WOW! Congrats on getting your original one back, that's very cool.

Here are a few more for comparison:

sreyemj wrote:

sreyemj wrote: Unfortunately, I sold that one on GB when I want back to school (would love to buy it back if anyone has it, electrostencil serial RMN001665, receiver marked B*878).

In a most interesting twist of fate, a forum member contacted me and said he now owned this rifle. After some discussion, he was kind enough to sell it to me and I picked it up this afternoon!

Both together:


Original purchase receipt from Cabelas in 2013, only $149!

Well, that certainly is a nice coincidence. Talk about a needle in a haystack. Perhaps you should have also bought a lottery ticket the day you found it.

It looks on all these examples the Star and scrolled "No" and some other marks were original, and the serial number was added in addition to the date change. Plus one Ishevsk triangle

The serial numbers and second 1 in the date are in Izhevsk's font. So yes they were added later.