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Seeking Info
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:41 pm
by GRAYWOLF
New to the Mosin Nagant.
Looking for any info anyone might be able to provide.
Based on what I can find, it appears to be a Russian Izhevsk Armory M38.
I don't really have any history on this particular rifle, but I am attaching pictures that I hope helps those of you with knowledge...
I don't see any extra markings, could this be an unrestored original?
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:13 pm
by millman
That is a 1938 91/30. M38s are carbines.
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:11 am
by Junk Yard Dog
What you have appears to be an issued rifle, as in not refurbished before being sold for surplus. A pile of these came in from Spain in the 1950's and again from Romania in the early 1990's, still others from Finland, but I do not see the Finn SA stamp in your pictures. This was made at Izhevsk arsenal in the Soviet Union in 1938, later sent as military aid to Spain, and then the post WW2 eastern block countries like Poland, East Germany, Hungary, Romania, Albania, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, and so on. The Soviets did refurbish the rifles before sending them out as aid, they had been used by the Red Army during WW2, but long use in eastern Europe put the look of age back on them.
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:14 am
by steelbuttplate
The muzzle appears to have been stove up in the mud somewhere for a while. Is the rifling on the inside at the muzzle?
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:40 am
by djbuck1
A nice old veteran.

Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:09 pm
by Longcolt44
Treat her like a lady. A little lemon oil on that stock wouldn't hurt either.
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:39 pm
by millman
I note that it has a late/post war stock. I don't think that would have been original to 1938. I do agree that it does not look like a standard refurb. Balkan maybe.
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 1:14 pm
by GRAYWOLF
Thanks for the info. I really had no idea what I had, other than what i could figure out online.
I finally had a little time this weekend to clean her up a bit...
Still need some polish for the furniture...
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:39 pm
by GRAYWOLF
I finally picked up a box of ammo for it...how much recoil do these things transfer to you?
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Wed Dec 18, 2019 3:59 pm
by millman
Recoil is on par with a .308, or a 12 gauge. Tuck it in tight and it is not bad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-kUqVmfB6Hk
Re: Seeking Info
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2019 5:58 am
by bunkysdad
Graywolf, you have a very nice example of a rifle that has been used a lot and somehow escaped the hands of the surplus butcher who likes to ruin them in an attempt to make them better. It likely has been stored in a closet for a couple decades or more and maybe even forgotten for awhile. I'm happy to see that when you cleaned it up you didn't sandpaper it. It's a very nice rifle that is getting hard to find these days