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Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:16 am
by racerguy00
Examples of Finn-used dragoons updated to their M30 or the Soviet 91/30 specs turn up from time to time. These are different than the common refurb exdragoons in that they have none if the usual Soviet refurb marks, the rear sight bases are not pinned and other than the upgrade look like typical Finn capture rifles.

There has been some debate as to whether the Finns upgraded at least some of these or that they were upgraded by the Soviets before capture. In this particular case, I believe it is proven that the Finns upgraded dragoons also.

The rifle is a 1909 Izhevsk that bears Austrian WW1 era AZF stampings on the barrel and receiver. It would have been most likely sold to the Finns after WW1. It has been upgraded to the Finn m30 specs by replacing the rear sight with the newer design and the front blade with a taller blade and spacer. The stock is a two piece Finn-spluced stock, and the bolt is the only matching part as is common with Finn rifles. It is SA and D marked.

IMO the only way the Soviets could have converted this dragoon to 91/30 and not the Finns was for it to have been captured and marked by the Austrians, recaptured by the Russians and later upgraded, then captured by the Finns. Highly unlikely. I have. Never seen an example of a Soviet refurb exdragoon bearing Austrian markings although its possible they exist.

I've seen about a dozen of this type of exdragoon, but this is only the second Imperial dated one and first Austrian marked one I've seen. Definitely an uncommon rifle.

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:24 am
by neal45
I like this one a lot. Great example of an unusual ex-dragoon that I would like to see in the showcase.

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:41 am
by Homer2
I concur with the reasoning here. Of the updated dragons I've seen, including a 1917 I own, most seem to also have the stacked front sights. Really unique example here. Real beauty.

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Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:15 am
by qz2026
Sweet. Believe I say this on FB yesterday :) One thing for sure..., it's done some traveling around :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 6:46 am
by Miller Tyme
:thumbsup: got my vote

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:29 pm
by Rongo
Very nice find. Has my vote as well! :thumbsup:

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:31 pm
by millman
Rongo wrote:Very nice find. Has my vote as well! :thumbsup:
Yours is the one that counts.

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 7:45 pm
by redspoon
That's a good one, it will represent well in the Showcase. :thumbsup:

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Mon Oct 01, 2018 2:55 am
by Junk Yard Dog
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:24 am
by Judi and her Mosins
Very nice, Has my vote.....To the show case with this gem !

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2018 12:54 pm
by Rongo

Re: Finn 1909 Izhevsk ex-dragoon M30(91/30) showcase submission

Posted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 9:19 am
by millman