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1875 Snider Carbine,.577 Snider Cal., Single Shot "Snider" action
Portuguese contract Snider made by Enfield in England. Contract between Enfield and the Portuguese for their police. Same rifle as Engilish military, just different marks on the lock.

All English proof marks.
http://www.thedolk.com/Snider/index.html

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I should have posted this also (I'll edit it above). Chuck brought it up to me.

It is a Portuguese contract Snider made by Enfield in England. Contract between Enfield and the Portuguese for their police. Same rifle, just different marks on the lock.

All English proof marks.

http://www.thedolk.com/Snider/index.html

Dolk

I just saw an old movie where the Indians were using what looked like Sniders against our calvary.

Well, it's the movies......

Snider was an American, he couldn't sell the breach loader to the US so he went to England and they bought it. The US went with the trap door type.

There were several different types of carbines that came out of the Civil War that the Indians could have used. I don't think they could have got their hands on Snider rifles, unless Canada was supplying them. That would have caused a war between US and Canada I'd think.

A few Sniders found there way over for Buffalo hunts.

Dolk

Don't believe what you see in the movies, especially older movies. Back then they did not foresee Hi Def DVDs or stop action, or movie watchers who could tell the difference between a Spencer and a Snider. Extras were armed with whatever looked good, sometimes they cobbled something together from spare parts, others they used something that looked close to period correct. I have lost track of how many States War movies were the Union, or Confederate troops are actually firing Trapdoor Spring fields rather than rifle muskets. They got away with it because the rifles look close when seen on the big screen or a small black and white TV.

I'll be curious to see the range report on this one. A very interesting rifle & something you don't see every day.

The fact that it is a carbine makes it look like a cannon with that big bore. That could sure deliver some damage back in it's time. Very cool, and a nice addition to the collection.

It was really a pleasure to shoot. A lot of kick, but not as bad as my .58 Hawkins hunter.

I could easily fire this rifle most of the day. But don't get me wrong, it kicks, but not as bad as a Mosin carbine.
Dolk

More talk here
http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.c ... f=11&t=395

That really does shoot. What kind of powder do you like?

I'm using some "old" Goetex FFG. I'm just about out now and you can't get this stuff any longer. This is the old stuff that stinks like bad eggs when you burn it!

I'll need to find something else.

Dolk

Are you allowed to order out of state? I wasn't sure if places like Graff's ships powder to California but I have been wanting to order some black powder of a couple of brands, including their house brand.

Yes, You can order black powder. It expensive because of the extra cost for shipping hazardous material. ....... (Damn, I took enough time to answer that one ....didn't I?)

Dolk

50 pounds is the limit at one time.

If I order 4 or 5 pounds online it absorbs the $28 hasn't fee and it is then just as cheap as buying local. Actually 3 would break even as it is 11.00 more per pound than online.