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New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:37 am
by Slayer22
So I will admit I don't know much about Mosin's received one in the mail yesterday. It is a 192 dates Tula. No I didn't forget the 4th number because there isn't one. I broke it down quick and the tang had a 2 number date "28" with an upside down Tula hammer. I didn't snap a pic of the tang as I was covered in grease but I can show the receiver.

Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:08 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Welcome to the board, the commies could be sloppy about the markings, that's a 1928 Tula.
Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:40 am
by Slayer22
Very sloppy the serial number goes in every directions as well
Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 6:58 am
by Slayer22
So would this be considered the ex-dragoon?
Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:45 am
by Junk Yard Dog
spongemonkey wrote:Junk Yard Dog wrote:Welcome to the board, the commies could be sloppy about the markings, that's a 1928 Tula.
JYD, please enlighten me. Is that what is called a "5 line" rifle?

Just the older Tula arsenal marking, 1928 was the last year for it before they started using the big star.
Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:57 am
by qz2026
It's called a five-line Tula because there are 5 lines of text describing the armory. This stamping and variations was used between 1920 and 1928 to represent manufacture at the Tula arsenal. Prior stampings beginning in 1920 were similar with minor word changes but different acronyms representing Russia. Prior to 1923 the acronym was "Р.С.Ф.С.Р.". This "Five Line" version contained "C.C.C.P". Your rifle is fascinating because the last digit of the date is missing. As JYD says, sloppy stamping. Does the stock have prewar escutcheons? First one I've seen like this.

Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:37 am
by Slayer22
No screws in the escutcheons, post war stock with brass end caps on upper hand guard
Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:58 pm
by steelbuttplate
" 28 was the last r for "big hammer " stamped hex ay? Can't see it in the pics. Is it there? I think I'm seeing ex-dragoon on the rear sight base.

Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:09 pm
by Slayer22
Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 2:11 pm
by Slayer22
Maybe a drunk Russian the serial number matches on everything including bayonet but he had to stamp it twice a lot same numbers just stamped twice
Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:04 pm
by steelbuttplate
spongemonkey wrote:Would Vodka have been involved with the number striking? Potatoe brew can have some wierd effects on some people!

Wierd effects to say the least. I'm allergic to it. It makes me fall down.

Re: New to me 192 Tula
Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 4:40 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
steelbuttplate wrote:spongemonkey wrote:Would Vodka have been involved with the number striking? Potatoe brew can have some wierd effects on some people!

Wierd effects to say the least. I'm allergic to it. It makes me fall down.

They have this button you wear around your neck for when that happens, kind of like OnStar for people, you just press the button and say -I've fallen and I can't get up, somebody on the other end sends help.