The Russian Mosin Nagant Forum

Classic Firearms has 1,000 rds (2 500 rd cases) of 7.62x54r, 148gr, TMJ, L.C.B, steel case, non-corrosive, berdan primed, Russian for $445.92 shipped. From what I have been researching, this is a good price. My question is, is this safe ammo for a Mod 39 B barrel Mosin? Paper-puncher only.

I'didn't have to look to see what the ammo is exactly but that seems way high.

I got an email saying he had Wolf white box for 500 at $199.00 plus shipping.

racerguy00 wrote:I'didn't have to look to see what the ammo is exactly but that seems way high.

I searched a number of other sites and they came in the lowest, for non-corrosive. There is cheaper corrosive.

Longcolt44 wrote:I got an email saying he had Wolf white box for 500 at $199.00 plus shipping.

That's it.

The M39 will handle any 7.62x54r you can find.

Has anybody found any cheaper non-corrosive?

I have never looked for non-corrosive. I shoot the snot out of surplus (corrosive) then clean my rifle, no harm no foul.

SA1911a1, Do you consistently clean your weapons the same day after shooting or have you been able to go longer? What's your method?

shooter99 wrote:SA1911a1, Do you consistently clean your weapons the same day after shooting or have you been able to go longer? What's your method?

I clean mine as soon as I get home. I found if I didn't do it then I could find all kinds of reasons to put it off until later...not good.

I'm the same way, although I have slipped a couple times, especially when I've been firing multiple weapons. Do you always do the hot water or have you found other techniques?

I like surplus ammo. It doesn't require a long drawn out cleaning regimen after shooting, but at least should be cleaned enough to neutralize the corrosive salts. I don't use hot water. I use boiling hot water. Poured down the barrel from the breach, with the muzzle in a bucket or sometimes in the grass. Then run a patch or two to see what it looks like, a few more patches with Hoppes #9 or as of lately Ballistol. Clean the chamber. Clean the bolt and not miss the bolt face. Dry patches again till I am happy with it then a little oil or final coat of Ballistol. Ready for another round. Another cleaner/lube that I like is Breakfree CLP.

I do agree that 445.00 shipped sounds like a good price for late Mfg. non-corrosive ammo these days.

Appreciate the information. Is it necessary to use the boiling hot water with Non-corrosive ammo?

Most people do not use boiling water on non-corrosive ammo. I use boiling water on anything not made in the USA...just because.

Yes that is true. Most people do not, and to be honest, many won't use water on corrosive either. I am surprised this thread hasn't took off in a debate about it. There is no question it works, but many people are not willing to put water down their bores, period. Even if I never used water I would trust a good cleaning with Hoppes 9 but even that idea gets shot down by some folks. Cleaning methods are kind of a personal thing it appears but the important thing is to do it.

bunkysdad wrote:Yes that is true. Most people do not, and to be honest, many won't use water on corrosive either. I am surprised this thread hasn't took off in a debate about it. There is no question it works, but many people are not willing to put water down their bores, period. Even if I never used water I would trust a good cleaning with Hoppes 9 but even that idea gets shot down by some folks. Cleaning methods are kind of a personal thing it appears but the important thing is to do it.

Why not? I agree wholeheartedly; Boiling water is an excellent way to cleanse any bad crap out. Just need to make sure to oil it well after. Easy.

I never used boiling/hot water with surplus. I put on the latex gloves and scrub the chamber and bore with surplus USA military bore cleaner, run a few patches through, repeat and then clean with Hoppes. Same with the bolt. The military cleaner is surplus WWII stuff that was stored right-works great even though it's 70+ years old. Neutralizes the corrosive deposits without any extra effort.

I'm guessing here, but boiling water was probably not readily available in the field.

You mentioned the surplus cleaner that they used and you are using. It makes sense that they had something to keep the barrels from rusting. Is there a currently manufactured version of this that is just as effective? Is it as effective as the boiling water method?

From what I have read on the pull-down information, only water can actually rinse away the salts.

Hey Bunkysdad, I think it's on! LOL!

The WWII military surplus bore cleaner (Specification RIX 205) was made to neutralize the corrosive residues left by the older primers. It is just as effective as the hot water treatment as it is a water based solvent. There is no current manufacture equivalent. The stuff I have was made by Banner, but there were several companies making the stuff. Vietnam era bore cleaner is a different formula adopted after the USA stopped using corrosive primers. The RIX 205 solvent is milky white and must be agitated (shaken) before use.