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An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 12:31 pm
by rayjd2
My grandfather owns this beast.
I haven't been able to track downs its origin, not any more specifically than perhaps… Turkey. I have no idea.
Take a look, opine on the thing.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 12:32 pm
by rayjd2
Cheers,
JD
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:13 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Nice
My guess would be Africa, North Africa, looks a bit too ornate for Turkey, and the symbolism does not look Islamic.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:20 pm
by rayjd2
Next question. What should I do with it in regards to restoration, if anything?
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:41 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Nothing at all, this is not a shooter, not if you value your life anyway. Wallhanger, preserved as is.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 1:57 pm
by rayjd2
That was the plan if the answer was negatory. Thanks boss.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 2:56 pm
by desdem12
Interesting anyway. Has a look of a very old stock but appears as if it has a replica percussion system. Is the spark system operational on it?
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:25 pm
by rayjd2
It would need very large caps, or a tiny pouch of magnesium fulminate.
It locks and will dry-fire. Definitely enough strength to ignite a cap.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:29 pm
by millman
That is a nifty decorative piece. I have seen similar ones called "Camel Guns".
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 4:30 pm
by rayjd2
It would need very large caps, or a tiny pouch of magnesium fulminate.
It locks and will dry-fire. Definitely enough strength to ignite a cap.
It's also very long. 60" and heavier than lead.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 6:08 pm
by Longcolt44
Millman is correct I believe. I just Googled, camel gun, and got these pictures.
https://www.google.com/search?q=camel+g ... B640%3B480
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:13 pm
by bunkysdad
I didn't know they mounted Gatling Guns on Camels!
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Tue May 27, 2014 7:58 pm
by rayjd2
So they were fired using a swivel mounted on the camel?
Makes sense, it's way too long for me to aim.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:10 am
by Ironnewt
Lock looks like it was on a flinter at one time
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:56 am
by bunkysdad
I think the camels should have hearing protection. I don't know, maybe camels are deaf. At least the ones who sported Automatic weapons.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Sat Jun 28, 2014 6:10 pm
by Mikelp1973
rayjd2 wrote:It would need very large caps, or a tiny pouch of magnesium fulminate.
It locks and will dry-fire. Definitely enough strength to ignite a cap.
It's also very long. 60" and heavier than lead.
I believe the purpose of the long barrel on these guns is to be fired from the back of a camel so the barrel is lengthy to extend past the camel's head. So you don't shoot your camel.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 11:44 am
by entropy
This jezail has a Brown Bess flint lock with an Enfield 1858 hammer, and some cobbled-together nipple setup. It's a tourist trade gun, and I agree with JYD, strictly a wallhanger.
Re: An Old Muzzleloader
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:31 pm
by musketjon
entropy wrote:This jezail has a Brown Bess flint lock with an Enfield 1858 hammer, and some cobbled-together nipple setup. It's a tourist trade gun, and I agree with JYD, strictly a wallhanger.
This ^ EXACTLY !!!!!! Hammer could be either 1853 or 1858 Enfield. They are one-and-the-same.
Jon
