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Dragoon?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:42 pm
by befus
I came across a rifle at a local flea market/gun trading venue yesterday. It was rough, but not terrible. It was very dirty, had a dark patina all over, obviously had not seen any use in many years and was missing the handguard. Standard, up-dated rear sight. Dated 1934 it appeared to me to have the later, taller transitional Dragoon blade front sight which appeared to be in the same shape as the rest of the rifle. Upon further inspection the tang date is 1933. This would be right at the very end of the use of these sights, as I understand it, but I wonder if it could actually be a Dragoon? I got it on the cheap, so it is not going to kill me, but obviously I'd like to think it might be. Opinions?
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:45 pm
by Lee-online
What rear sight does it have? A stepped or straight?
Post some good pics so we all can see and ogle at your new rifle.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 1:46 pm
by millman
Probably an earlier 91/30 given the standard rear sight with the blade front. Is it SA marked?
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:41 pm
by befus
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Not a lot to see.
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Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 3:44 pm
by desdem12
Transition front sight. Rifle looks like it was in spain by the condition of it
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 4:56 pm
by befus
So will I get my $90 back...............
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 5:15 pm
by Miller Tyme
I am not to sue that is a transitional front sight, both of mine have a step in them and this one don't. If the rifle is SCW it could be a spanish mfg replacement
33 Izhevsk Transational front sight.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 6:13 pm
by befus
Miller Tyme wrote:I am not to sue that is a transitional front sight, both of mine have a step in them and this one don't. If the rifle is SCW it could be a spanish mfg replacement
33 Izhevsk Transational front sight.
Sure it does,looks just like yours.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:04 pm
by bunkysdad
So you want your 90.00 back? Where do I send the money order?
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 8:02 pm
by fintowin
what is the measurement from the end of the barrel to the end of the fore end. Dragoons are a bit longer here than a 91/30.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2014 10:44 pm
by befus
On the road, but I can say that the handguard I put on it once I got it home did not line up exactly. More later.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 3:01 am
by djbuck1
MT's looks like the front sight on my 1933 Tula, which I know by looking at the rear sight is not an ex-Dragoon.
I have a 1931 dated ex-Dragoon, and I've heard of 1932s, but a 1933 would be quite a find.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:59 am
by racerguy00
befus wrote:So will I get my $90 back...............
Why would you want your money back? I'd be glad to help you make a profit on this one so you could buy another.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 4:44 pm
by psmd
I agree, a SCW 91/30, a little too late for a dragoon.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:18 pm
by Miller Tyme
Transitinal front sights where used on 91/30's from 1930 until mid 1934 when the Russians adopted the globe front sight. The only transitional front sighted rifles you will find will either be SCW's or Finn Captures since the Russians updated all in there stocks to the globe front sights during the rifles refurb.
Re: Dragoon?
Posted: Tue Mar 25, 2014 5:26 pm
by desdem12
The idea that it was made in spain is an interesting idea. The Spanish were known not to like the post and globe sights.
