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Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:26 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
Don't know how many of you are watching this Ukraine/Russian problem going on. But if Europe and the US do put an economic embargo on Russia and a separate Worldwide Arms Ban on Russia, look out. You can bet your bippy that all this cheap import ammo will be gone as soon as the pipeline empties.

If this, and I am betting it will happen, you will not be able to buy the stuff cheap for your Mosins, SKS, and AK rifles.
Even when things settle down, I will bet you that our .Gov will not again allow the import of all that ammo for out guns.
It will become another Gun Control method.

You all need to think about this. Because Walmart will not be able to help you guys. Buy by the case now and quickly I suggest. I talked to two Distributors of ammo from there today. At this time the Ukrainian Arsenal does not answer a telephone or a fax. The plant is on the Eastern Border with Russia. Right on it it appears. Population there is mostly Russian.
It is suspected the Russians may already have taken it.

Think what you may, but think hard about cheap ammo now today.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:16 pm
by jimpierce7
I have two crates coming. I'm going to check my cards and maybe buy another crate. Fed Ex and UPS guys are gonna hate me. lol

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:56 pm
by etprescottazusa91
The U.S. will probably use this as an excuse to embargo commercial Russian ammo sales like we did Israel 30 years ago, say goodbye to a source of quality cheap ammo.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 5:46 am
by Junk Yard Dog
I stocked up long ago, not in anticipation of this, but because I know surplus ammo is not forever.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:34 pm
by bunkysdad
I am going to Judy's and help her shoot her ammo. :P

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:45 pm
by Ironnewt
bunkysdad wrote:I am going to Judy's and help her shoot her ammo. :P
I'll meet you there. Are we shooting her guns as well? You know a woman's place is in the loading room with a bore mop :chuckles: :chuckles:

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:46 pm
by Ironnewt
Back on topic, I just bought a crate I didn't need knowing that the price is going up. I can't wait to see what they are charging at the next gun show I go to.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 8:47 pm
by Mike
Ironnewt wrote:
bunkysdad wrote:I am going to Judy's and help her shoot her ammo. :P
I'll meet you there. Are we shooting her guns as well? You know a woman's place is in the loading room with a bore mop :chuckles: :chuckles:
:pop: :pop: :pop: :chuckles: :chuckles:

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 9:50 pm
by paul6892
OLD OUTLAW wrote:Don't know how many of you are watching this Ukraine/Russian problem going on. But if Europe and the US do put an economic embargo on Russia and a separate Worldwide Arms Ban on Russia, look out. You can bet your bippy that all this cheap import ammo will be gone as soon as the pipeline empties.

If this, and I am betting it will happen, you will not be able to buy the stuff cheap for your Mosins, SKS, and AK rifles.
Even when things settle down, I will bet you that our .Gov will not again allow the import of all that ammo for out guns.
It will become another Gun Control method.

You all need to think about this. Because Walmart will not be able to help you guys. Buy by the case now and quickly I suggest. I talked to two Distributors of ammo from there today. At this time the Ukrainian Arsenal does not answer a telephone or a fax. The plant is on the Eastern Border with Russia. Right on it it appears. Population there is mostly Russian.
It is suspected the Russians may already have taken it.

Think what you may, but think hard about cheap ammo now today.
Thanks for the Big Tip :!:

:udaman:

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:18 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
Thanks Paul. Just another reason why it is always good to keep stocked up for a few years ahead of time. People do not seem to understand that Politics and Politicians trump their Walmart supplies. If things there over the next couple of months go South, there won't be cheap surplus in those calibers. And I bet the anti gun people will not let it come back. This situation may well be to their greatest joy. And they will see that it never comes back here. Damn, I hope it does not come to this. But it very easily could at this time. Hope for the best and stock up. Nothing else one can do.

In the past two months I have replaced what I shot from my stock during the Obama scares. So I am good for a few years to come. But I bet 99 out of 100 people have less than 200 rounds in stock. Walmart shoppers checking for ammo daily.
Oh well.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2014 10:30 pm
by paul6892
I just purchased another 700 rounds of Romanian 7.62x39 123gr FMJ Ammo
and Russian 7.62x54R 147grn FMJ 440rd Can

I guess we all waiting to see what happens next in the Ukraine and I think it's going to get ugly very fast and real soon ! :-(

PS; I got my first Tula Mosin yesterday a M9130, see my posting :)

Thanks again

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:49 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Ironnewt wrote:
bunkysdad wrote:I am going to Judy's and help her shoot her ammo. :P
I'll meet you there. Are we shooting her guns as well? You know a woman's place is in the loading room with a bore mop :chuckles: :chuckles:
Oh boy, she reads this and you go out there we may not see you no more. Oh well, we will be splitting up your gear so make sure you buy a new leatherman Wave and leave it behind before you set out, I could use one :biggrin: :twisted: :thumbsup:

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 8:46 am
by Rongo
It's good to be aware of the situation & weigh the possibility that this could potentially happen. If you have some extra funds & want to have plenty of ammo it would be prudent to buy some now as the prices will most likely rise in the coming months do to fear mongering.
Just remember that as always, this scenario is a possibility but by no means set in stone.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:09 pm
by Ironnewt
Junk Yard Dog wrote:
Ironnewt wrote:
bunkysdad wrote:I am going to Judy's and help her shoot her ammo. :P
I'll meet you there. Are we shooting her guns as well? You know a woman's place is in the loading room with a bore mop :chuckles: :chuckles:
Oh boy, she reads this and you go out there we may not see you no more. Oh well, we will be splitting up your gear so make sure you buy a new leatherman Wave and leave it behind before you set out, I could use one :biggrin: :twisted: :thumbsup:
If you can get by with a used one (Wave) I'll leave it at the house. I'm not worried about Judi hurting me, I'm very neat. :chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles:

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2014 6:51 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
I have a used one, it's been used so much, and for so long that it's falling apart.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:34 am
by Judi and her Mosins
I'll meet you there. Are we shooting her guns as well? You know a woman's place is in the loading room with a bore mop :chuckles: :chuckles:[/quote]Oh boy, she reads this and you go out there we may not see you no more. Oh well, we will be splitting up your gear so make sure you buy a new leatherman Wave and leave it behind before you set out, I could use one :biggrin: :twisted: :thumbsup:[/quote]

If you can get by with a used one (Wave) I'll leave it at the house. I'm not worried about Judi hurting me, I'm very neat. :chuckles: :chuckles: :chuckles:[/quote]


:soapbox:
Russell and Marc,...you two are going get when I get home today. :angry4: Judi and her Mosin's ;mywink;

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 5:13 am
by Junk Yard Dog
See, I warned you, now why not just send me that wave now and save me the trip :D :thumbsup: :twisted: and Russell, you can add in that Finn capture 91/30 you have. You know, that way I have something to remember you guys by :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :twisted:

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 3:36 pm
by Lmbass14
OLD OUTLAW wrote:Don't know how many of you are watching this Ukraine/Russian problem going on. But if Europe and the US do put an economic embargo on Russia and a separate Worldwide Arms Ban on Russia, look out. You can bet your bippy that all this cheap import ammo will be gone as soon as the pipeline empties.

If this, and I am betting it will happen, you will not be able to buy the stuff cheap for your Mosins, SKS, and AK rifles.
Even when things settle down, I will bet you that our .Gov will not again allow the import of all that ammo for out guns.
It will become another Gun Control method.

You all need to think about this. Because Walmart will not be able to help you guys. Buy by the case now and quickly I suggest. I talked to two Distributors of ammo from there today. At this time the Ukrainian Arsenal does not answer a telephone or a fax. The plant is on the Eastern Border with Russia. Right on it it appears. Population there is mostly Russian.
It is suspected the Russians may already have taken it.

Think what you may, but think hard about cheap ammo now today.
OO predicted the ammo shortage a couple of years ago on another board. I was one of those people that paid attention and started my collection, even though I was a little late.

For those who don't know him, you'd be very wise to heed his advice. Thanks Steve.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 4:26 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
I predicted it in 1978, fact of life when dealing with surplus ammunition, it's leftover from the activities of an earlier age. We are using up what the people from that earlier time didn't need once they were finished with a particular weapons platform. The factory's that made it went cold decades ago making what is left all that there will ever be. To be technical about it even this ammo we shoot is itself a historical military collectable. The more popular ammo becomes the faster it will disappear. Sometimes people forget when the ammo seems cheap and plentiful, that there is no factory on the other end cranking it out, the more they use the closer they get to the end of the supply. Even the commies with their make work ammo production didn't make an unlimited amount. I have entire crates of ammo that are now part of the millsurp collection, not for shooting, probably fifteen or more spam cans alone just for that. One day when there is no more surplus at the local gun shop or online I will be displaying spam cans full of ammo with the rifles made to shoot it.

Re: Russian and Ukranian Ammunition Supply

Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2014 6:16 pm
by paul6892
What I hear you saying is, buy it now and keep it and don't shoot it all down Range :!: :2cents: