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Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:37 am
by kworm99
Posting this for someone on another group. Can't say that I've seen any of these markings before, anyone have any info? The rifle is a '39 Tula.

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:42 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Do you have a clearer photo? I would almost say import marking but I can't make it out.

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:46 am
by kworm99
He said it has the Century import mark.

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:52 am
by zeebill
Looks like European proof house marks to me? Bill :?:

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:54 am
by millman
zeebill wrote:Looks like European proof house marks to me? Bill :?:
+1

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:12 am
by Rongo
You don't see that everyday.... :wink:

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:14 am
by kworm99
So you guys think it's proof marks? He is in Italy...

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 8:55 am
by qz2026
It's really hard to say what these are but they are extremely cool. Have never seen markings like this before. I would trust Bill on this one. If he says European, that's good enough for me. :D

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:00 am
by millman
kworm99 wrote:So you guys think it's proof marks? He is in Italy...
If he is in Italy it is absolutely proofmarks. I have seen these on other rifles shown by folks in Europe. They are modern and don't add to any value. It is like our import marks in that regard.

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 9:43 am
by kworm99
Thanks guys, I'll let him know.

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 11:05 am
by desdem12
There were Italian rifles that were used in firehouses and such. Not sure if it was a combined police and fire. IT is possible the marks relate to a firehouse or police station along with proof marks. There was one kind of like this that was posted by a Italian member a long time ago. Im sure Drew remembers that also. :oji:

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 1:13 pm
by Darryl
Interesting ...... the bluing was done "after" it was stamped???

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Thu Jan 30, 2014 3:57 pm
by BuckeyeSgt
desdem12 wrote:There were Italian rifles that were used in firehouses and such. Not sure if it was a combined police and fire. IT is possible the marks relate to a firehouse or police station along with proof marks. There was one kind of like this that was posted by a Italian member a long time ago. Im sure Drew remembers that also. :oji:
I remember it. A while back I tried to find that post and never could. There was also one about a fire house one from Estonia or some Baltic country. The OP had some pretty good info to back up the claim if I remember right.

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:23 am
by zeebill
dolk wrote:Interesting ...... the bluing was done "after" it was stamped???

Or it was magic marked while clean and oil free, then bubba the price gouger wipes the rifle with oil and the excess out of the stamping is removed. I almost found out this works the hard way not long ago. Can't trust anyone these days. When I wiped one end of the mark which was partially under the wood line the mark was instantly silver and shiny. I said a few four letter words on that one but I got my money back and he now has a humped rifle to sell. First time I have ever seen or heard of that but I guess you are never too old to learn huh? :o Bill

Re: Can anyone identify these markings?

Posted: Fri Jan 31, 2014 7:47 am
by kworm99
I'd probably say a few four letter words myself if that happened to me Bill...