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Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:26 pm
by cj1964
A fellow collector was cleaning out his basement and getting rid of some accumulated odds and ends that had been collecting dust. I brought this home and I'm not positive what it is, but I believe it's a Finnish snow camo stock. There are archive photos of Finnish ski troops with white painted stocks, but I've never seen one intact... :vconfused:
I have no idea what happened to the rifle and there is no buttplate, but the stock is either a dragoon or early 91/30 (squared nose cap) and it was painted from tip to toe! You can even see where the bands were apparently painted over. The paint has yellowed a bit, especially toward the tip, but I believe that's just aging petina.
He told me he bought this many years ago from someone else who had a bunch of odds and ends he was selling. The CCCP mark is intact and if it's Finnish, it was from a captured rifle. I'd love to get some other opinions about this stock. I consider it a real gem of a find. :thumbsup:

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:30 pm
by desdem12
I know there was some snow camo and actually was a unit. I think they were ski troops though and had regular finnish rifles of some type, m27 or m28. I never actually found much info but did find the name of the unit but It is long lost in my head at the moment. Maybe Bugelson will know. :D

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:33 pm
by racerguy00
Nice. There was a gunboards thread on this a while ago. I'll try to dig it up.

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:39 pm
by bb91
Very interesting!

Here's a similar topic.

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread. ... hite+paint

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:41 pm
by bb91
racerguy00 wrote:Nice. There was a gunboards thread on this a while ago. I'll try to dig it up.
Gotta be quick! I see you posted while I was searching. :D :pointup:

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:02 pm
by racerguy00
bb91 wrote:
racerguy00 wrote:Nice. There was a gunboards thread on this a while ago. I'll try to dig it up.
Gotta be quick! I see you posted while I was searching. :D :pointup:
Nice

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:25 pm
by cj1964
Thanks for the gunboards post link. My paint seems to not have the same crazing as shown in that post, but while looking at it with a magnifying glass just now I can clearly see that the stock crest shows "РСФСР"!!! That means it's originally Tula 1921-1923!! That's a good detail to note - sorry I missed it.
Now that you mention it desdem, I seem to recall talk about the ski troopers painting Finnish rifles. Whatever this stock is, it has paint wear near the dog collar areas and I'm quite certain it was carried in service! Maybe I'll post on gunboards to see what feedback/flaming I can generate. :brolleyes:

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:25 pm
by gurn
Thats super cool! Hey the yellowed paint would now blend in with peed in snow :beek: I bet it would bring some big bucks on Ebay

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:27 pm
by dou44
nice find :thumbsup:

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:47 pm
by bb91
Over the years I've seen several white painted slings, most but not all were M39 type slings that Pat Burns has sold as "parade slings", some of them did look to to be newer but some had a very aged yellowing look similar to your stock.

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:11 pm
by cj1964
bb91 wrote:Over the years I've seen several white painted slings, most but not all were M39 type slings that Pat Burns has sold as "parade slings", some of them did look to to be newer but some had a very aged yellowing look similar to your stock.
Interesting - I've never seen one of those myself. Thanks for that info, I'll be on the lookout for one now. :brolleyes:

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:03 pm
by etprescottazusa91
Interesting stock, someone probably swapped it out because they thought it was ugly without realizing at all what they had. :thumbsup:

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:45 pm
by gurn
Want to sell it?

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:34 pm
by cjsimoh
Pretty cool Chris! :thumbsup:

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:53 pm
by clayshooter2
Wow! I have seen pictures of some with some paint still in tact, but never that much. Major cool find! To bad someone took it off the original rifle, but still a very cool piece to find.

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:55 pm
by Marcus
RSFSR is an Izhevsk stock marking, not Tula

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 10:29 pm
by shmlnaaa
Yep, looks like the Finnish snow cammo paint to me. Too bad it's not with it's rifle! From what limited examples I've seen, usually the metal of the rifle got painted too.

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:44 pm
by graphic914
First snow painted Camo I have seen, great

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:27 am
by Bugelson
Here's a thread from another forum

http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?t=314475

Re: Snow camo stock

Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2013 1:45 am
by Ironnewt
seriously :cool: