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Ammo question

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 11:50 am
by mikerb55
Has anyone ever used this ammo? I'm looking for something to use in my local indoor range.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/1 ... ecoil-ammo

:wink:

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:19 pm
by vintovka mosina
It sounds good, at 2 cents a round it would be a lot of fun....however I'm kind of
Concerned about the "hollow" terminology ...my state has a thing for "hollow points" ..not 100 % on
"Hollow core" vs "hollow point"
"Hollow point" is ilegal and I can see me trying to explain "hollow core" to the range does some one
Have a light on this?
Reloading also would be an option .....maybe?

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 1:46 pm
by WeldonHunter
mikerb55 wrote:Has anyone ever used this ammo? I'm looking for something to use in my local indoor range.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/1 ... ecoil-ammo

:wink:

It's not hollow point. It's hollow core low recoil and has a plastic core in a metal jacket. It's only a 46gr projectile compared the the normal 148gr surplus ammo. It's basically training ammo and is deadly but has very low impact energy even though it has a muzzle velocity of 3200fps. I wouldn't think a range would have a problem with it because it basically disinegrates on impact for the most part. It's not destructive to backstops and doesn't really ricochet. My advice would be to call them and ask. It's as accurate as normal ammo from what I've heard. Oh and you can email Sam at SGAmmo about it if you have any questions. He'll get back to you fairly quickly.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:08 pm
by SA1911a1
I ain't no math whiz, but it sure looks like a lot more than $.02 per round. But still looks like a good deal if you have to shoot at a commercial range.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:16 pm
by mikerb55
Thanks guys! I've talked to the local range and they will get back to me. I really don't see this as being a problem. I'll let you know what I hear back.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 2:56 pm
by Izhevsk762
I've used this ammo, it's fun. I fired it from an M44, there was no recoil. I still has all the bang of the full loads (and was great for fireballs) but again, no recoil.
vintovka mosina wrote:It sounds good, at 2 cents a round it would be a lot of fun....however I'm kind of
Concerned about the "hollow" terminology ...my state has a thing for "hollow points" ..not 100 % on
"Hollow core" vs "hollow point"
"Hollow point" is ilegal and I can see me trying to explain "hollow core" to the range does some one
Have a light on this?
Reloading also would be an option .....maybe?
Hollow points aren't illegal in CA. Maybe LA has some restriction on them, but they are legal under state law.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:43 pm
by vintovka mosina
Cool,
I thought it was cheap for 29 you get 108 rounds and I am defenitely goikng to look in to it

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:09 pm
by crwjr
It sounds like a good deal, I would like to have some myself. cant wait to hear how it does out your gun... :toast:

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 11:17 am
by audadvnc
How would this light weight round work on small game? Would it take down a rabbit or squirrel, or splatter it all over the woodwork?

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:07 pm
by desdem12
audadvnc wrote:How would this light weight round work on small game? Would it take down a rabbit or squirrel without splattering it all over the woodwork
I think you should try it and let us know...sounds like a good experiment :D

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 1:26 pm
by youmightbearedneck
I have some.
I didn't realize you could get it anymore.
The kids love it. Way easier on the shoulder.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:23 am
by mikerb55
youmightbearedneck wrote:I have some.
I didn't realize you could get it anymore.
The kids love it. Way easier on the shoulder.
I haven't ordered any yet. My local indoor range tells me if a magnet does not stick to the projectile, I can use it at their range. Can you do this for me an let me know? :vconfused:

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:32 am
by SA1911a1
audadvnc wrote:How would this light weight round work on small game? Would it take down a rabbit or squirrel without splattering it all over the woodwork?

Seeing as how the concussion alone should take a squirrel at 50 yards, this stuff should work fine.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:30 am
by bunkysdad
I think it would obliterate the little fellas.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:32 am
by youmightbearedneck
mikerb55 wrote:
youmightbearedneck wrote:I have some.
I didn't realize you could get it anymore.
The kids love it. Way easier on the shoulder.
I haven't ordered any yet. My local indoor range tells me if a magnet does not stick to the projectile, I can use it at their range. Can you do this for me an let me know? :vconfused:
Yeah sure.
I'll look this evening.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:33 am
by youmightbearedneck
SA1911a1 wrote:
audadvnc wrote:How would this light weight round work on small game? Would it take down a rabbit or squirrel without splattering it all over the woodwork?

Seeing as how the concussion alone should take a squirrel at 50 yards, this stuff should work fine.
And the fireball should take care of the hair, lol

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:38 am
by vintovka mosina
Izhevsk762 wrote:I've used this ammo, it's fun. I fired it from an M44, there was no recoil. I still has all the bang of the full loads (and was great for fireballs) but again, no recoil.
vintovka mosina wrote:It sounds good, at 2 cents a round it would be a lot of fun....however I'm kind of
Concerned about the "hollow" terminology ...my state has a thing for "hollow points" ..not 100 % on
"Hollow core" vs "hollow point"
"Hollow point" is ilegal and I can see me trying to explain "hollow core" to the range does some one
Have a light on this?
Reloading also would be an option .....maybe?
Hollow points aren't illegal in CA. Maybe LA has some restriction on them, but they are legal under state law.
WeldonHunter wrote:
mikerb55 wrote:Has anyone ever used this ammo? I'm looking for something to use in my local indoor range.

http://www.sgammo.com/product/surplus/1 ... ecoil-ammo

:wink:

It's not hollow point. It's hollow core low recoil and has a plastic core in a metal jacket. It's only a 46gr projectile compared the the normal 148gr surplus ammo. It's basically training ammo and is deadly but has very low impact energy even though it has a muzzle velocity of 3200fps. I wouldn't think a range would have a problem with it because it basically disinegrates on impact for the most part. It's not destructive to backstops and doesn't really ricochet. My advice would be to call them and ask. It's as accurate as normal ammo from what I've heard. Oh and you can email Sam at SGAmmo about it if you have any questions. He'll get back to you fairly quickly.


it looks like I am out of luck sgammo will not ship to Los Angeles ......... :vsad: im gonna have to wait to see if i can get some at my next gun show ......

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 9:18 pm
by youmightbearedneck
youmightbearedneck wrote:
mikerb55 wrote:
youmightbearedneck wrote:I have some.
I didn't realize you could get it anymore.
The kids love it. Way easier on the shoulder.
I haven't ordered any yet. My local indoor range tells me if a magnet does not stick to the projectile, I can use it at their range. Can you do this for me an let me know? :vconfused:
Yeah sure.
I'll look this evening.
OK - I didn't remember last night, but I did tonight.
Sorry man, but...

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Tue Dec 13, 2011 10:49 pm
by bunkysdad
Well how about that? If I had bet money on that I would have lost. I just wasn't expected the magnet to stick.

Re: Ammo question

Posted: Wed Dec 14, 2011 4:51 pm
by WeldonHunter
bunkysdad wrote:Well how about that? If I had bet money on that I would have lost. I just wasn't expected the magnet to stick.
Me too BD I'm with you. I've never shot this ammo and have actually never seen it up close. It looks like the white on the tip is maybe white paint over a FMJ casing. The weight of the bullet being only 46gr would make the impact of these be so limited though I wonder just how much damaged they would cause to a backstop at a range. From I've been told they're just a plastic projectile encased in a bi-metal jacket. I know one thing, it's real popular ammo.