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First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:31 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
Guys, here is another impossible SKS Rifle. But, it does now exist. Since the Russians came here, we discovered that many had been lent from Russia to
East Germany. Then returned to Russia after the DDR started manufacturing their own SKS as well as the AK series. The stocks and hand guard were always marked separately. The stock horizontally with the rifle. Most also have the /1\ stamped to left of S/N or many times under the stock line. Most are faint or only a partial as they were hand stamped. But, not always there!

A very close friend of mine is strictly a collector of the DDR Russian rifles, until he found this one! Talk about a rare rifle! It is a 1957 Romanian
rifle that is DDR marked. The triangle is out of sight in these pics, but at bottom of receiver. But, it kinda makes sense as the East Germans
were not trusted for years in having another Military Manufacturing Complex. Perhaps someone else does have one of these, but this old boy has never heard or seen one before.

http://s936.photobucket.com/albums/ad21 ... SKS%20DDR/

Enjoy and watch for this stamping on any Romanian you see in the future.
Pics posted with the consent of the owner, Drago from SKS Survivors Board.
Steve

Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:37 pm
by millman
That is sweet. My only SKS is one of the DDR Russian ones. I had no idea, until Martin08 spotted it here ( viewtopic.php?f=9&t=779 ), and told me to look for the /1\ stamp. Thanks again Martin.

Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 5:48 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
Cool Cold War relic, it's been around a bit :vcool: :vcool: :vcool:

Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:40 pm
by WeldonHunter
That's another nice one. I'll never be able to keep up with all of these and where they were from. I know this isn't a romanian rifle and I'm not sure if it's east or west Germany but my uncle took this picture of a German soldier shouldering an SKS. It may be as recent as the 90's but he was stationed in Germany during the vietnam war in the mid sixies and it may be from then. I forget.

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Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Wed Nov 30, 2011 6:46 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
I think that Romanian Drago got a hold of may possibly be a first ever. I mean, have you ever even heard that a Romanian DDR ever existed? Not me
over these years. He did good on grabbing that rifle,and I do mean good!

Edit: East German pic before the fall of the wall. Notice the helmet and the uniform pants.

Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 6:36 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Swapping weapons around between the buffer states is not that unusual, but for the most part it was weapons flowing into Romania, not out of it. The Hungarian M44's that were around five years ago came in from Romania, they had been given as aid to that country because Romania's internal M44 production was slow paced, they were a poor country. My Own Hungarian M44 has a Polish stock, and some small Romanian made parts on it, that shows trading was going on between at least three Com-Block country's, four if you figure the USSR gave them the tooling to build the M44 in the first place. They were all cash poor under the commies, most of their money went into trying to keep up the military, and they were all members of the Warsaw Pact so it was expected that they would share resources.

Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 7:51 am
by martin08
The existence of a DDR marked Romanian is highly unusual. There would be a grand total of "one" of these that I've seen. :shock:

The above picture of the East German guard is spectacular. The gun that he is holding is of Russian manufacture, and fitted with a laminated birch East German made stock. The inletting for the K-98 style pull through sling can be seen on the left buttstock. And the chromed and cupped buttstock plate can be seen through his glove hand. These were chiefly parade, honor guard, and guard duty rifles. The regular infantry/army units carried mostly Russian carbines, marked as the above Romanian with a /1\ on the receiver and horizontal numbering on the buttstock and handguard, or a more plane jane East German made Karabiner-S without the chromed buttplate.

Below is a picture of an honor guard replica (1954 Tula ). My prettiest rifle, bar none. Then followed by the real deal, an ultra rare 1960 Karabiner-S.

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Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 12:07 pm
by desdem12
Those are pretty!! :vcool: :vcool: :vcool:

Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Thu Dec 01, 2011 1:29 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
[quote="martin08"]The existence of a DDR marked Romanian is highly unusual. There would be a grand total of "one" of these that I've seen. :shock:

Last I heard is that it does have a partial but incomplete and lightly struck /1\. If indeed it does, that will be one very valuable rifle!
He has a pretty substantial DDR collection. He likes the DDR rifles because he was stationed in Germany when the DDR had these SKS.
Drago is a good man and a good collector. I'm trying to get him over here also. I sent him a link as soon as I did the original post. I know he has
dropped by. I'll drop him a hint or two like you did with me. :D

Re: First Romanian DDR Rifle I have ever seen!

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 6:03 pm
by cyknight
martin08 wrote:The existence of a DDR marked Romanian is highly unusual. There would be a grand total of "one" of these that I've seen. :shock:

The above picture of the East German guard is spectacular. The gun that he is holding is of Russian manufacture, and fitted with a laminated birch East German made stock. The inletting for the K-98 style pull through sling can be seen on the left buttstock. And the chromed and cupped buttstock plate can be seen through his glove hand. These were chiefly parade, honor guard, and guard duty rifles. The regular infantry/army units carried mostly Russian carbines, marked as the above Romanian with a /1\ on the receiver and horizontal numbering on the buttstock and handguard, or a more plane jane East German made Karabiner-S without the chromed buttplate.

Below is a picture of an honor guard replica (1954 Tula ). My prettiest rifle, bar none. Then followed by the real deal, an ultra rare 1960 Karabiner-S.

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WOW, and I do mean WOW!!! :toast: