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Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:23 am
by vstar650ca
Hello guys just joined this great site.Have a quick question(sorry if asked before) but wondering if there are differences in quality and accuracy between the Russian and Chinese built SKS rifles.Here in Canada there are a good supply of both for around $175.00-$200.00 range and think I better get one while they are hot Thanks

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:30 am
by Greasemonkey
Quality wise there is not much difference, go with the Russian for nice stocks and historical value, plus there are very rare models to be found. A '49 dated Tula, Izhevsk, non-refurb and so on are pretty rare. The Chinese have more models and some are equally rare and hard to find. The biggest difference is the Chinese expanded development of the rifle, short barrel lugs, and press fit barrels. Which even with those changes the still shoot as good at the original design. Chinese stocks are another difference, different wood, featureless Chu wood and orange shellac Vs. Russian arctic birch with pretty red shellac.

Accuracy wise out of the ones I own, a press barrel Chinese is my most accurate, probably tied with a Romanian SKS I have. Quality wise in metal work, I'd say Russian and Chinese are very close. One thing to keep in mind, the Russians taught the Chinese how to build them, the Chinese took it and ran with it for many years and are still making them probably 50 yrs later.

And $175 to $200 for an SKS is just sickening here in the states :vsad: , I'd buy them all day long :lol:

Pick the one that speaks to you, it's an SKS, not much will go wrong with it, but if they are the same price, Go Russian :thumbsup:

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:56 pm
by Junk Yard Dog
They both shoot the same, but I would go with the Soviet first, then get the Chinese one next week.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:22 pm
by OLD OUTLAW
Definitely get the Russian even in Canada while you can. Word I hear from Canadian Collectors is that the Russians have few left to sell into Canada.
Very possible I guess.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:28 pm
by martin08
Russian finish is usually more refined than Chinese, but operational quality and accuracy are very similar.

Many of the early Chinese guns were built with Russian parts and tooling, as well. Can't go wrong with either, so I'm with JYD. Get both!

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:54 am
by VelocityKnives
Hey,

All i know is my Chinese security forces SKS is one awesome rifle,,, very accurate and I out shot my friend with his Russian tula at the range, but that could just be the shooter too,,,, hah ! !

Regards,
AL

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 12:07 pm
by Dragunov sniper 777
at $175 to $200 apiece , buy two of each .... :thumbsup:

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Fri Jan 18, 2013 10:25 pm
by RMXC51
I find that accuracy is the same. Russians are prettier though. If you want a shooter, go with the Marstar $75 deal and bang away. Yuo get a new unissued Type 56 for $75 when you buy a crate of ammo.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Sat Jan 19, 2013 5:29 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Like the deals we had here 23 years ago

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:54 am
by TheSovietSamurai
This thread makes me devastated that I can never own an SKS :( Maybe if I move to WA and get a collectors license.......

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:14 am
by Junk Yard Dog
What makes you think you will never own one? Kicking the bucket this afternoon or something? Lots of SKS's around and shit has a way of coming along when you least expect it even if it's not supposed to exist were you live.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 1:33 am
by TheSovietSamurai
Junk Yard Dog wrote:What makes you think you will never own one? Kicking the bucket this afternoon or something? Lots of SKS's around and shit has a way of coming along when you least expect it even if it's not supposed to exist were you live.
Unfortunately the SKS is a prohibited weapon here in Australia, only way to obtain one legally is to become a dealer, which is extremely costly. Or I could move to New Zealand or the US :D Otherwise I doubt I'll ever even hold one myself :cry:
Coincidentally, the SKS is the weapon of choice for the many biker gangs around here, they are seized almost every week in numbers up to 30 per bust. There are literally hundreds of thousands still here, I've even seen a few for sale online, but it mostly seems the only people able to acquire them are criminals, reportedly there are over 400,00 unregistered SKS' and SKK's in the Sydney area, a lot of good our gun ban did eh?

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:33 am
by jayrocka1200
looks like the new shipment of sks's coming into the U.S. might be coming from Australia ! :)

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:36 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Same deal as gun bans here, people just hide them away, and don't report them when they get stolen, or they die and the relitives sell them on the black market.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 5:38 am
by Junk Yard Dog
Wait a minute.....you mean all that Mad Max crazy biker gang stuff is real?? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: I thought that stuff was all made up for the movies.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 6:30 am
by hoshow
Dragunov sniper 777 wrote:at $175 to $200 apiece , buy two of each .... :thumbsup:
Yes buy both. They are going for $350-400 here in the states for one.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:07 pm
by TheSovietSamurai
Junk Yard Dog wrote:Wait a minute.....you mean all that Mad Max crazy biker gang stuff is real?? :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: I thought that stuff was all made up for the movies.
For the most part, you could say so. There's basically an underground war going on over here with the various biker factions, even the mob gets involved, you hear about shootings between rival groups almost every week in the northern parts of the country, the main gangs in the turf war here are the Bandidos, the Coffin Cheaters, the Comancheros, the Hell's Angels, the Nomads and the Rebels, most have roughly 500-600 members. Sounds ridiculous, but it is a reality.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:51 am
by Junk Yard Dog
That's the last time I laugh at a Mad Max movie, damn, that sounds worse than the shit they get up to here. Mob? As in La cosa nostra? Italian Mafia? The Godfather and the five family's? The things you don't read about in all the tourist brochures that go on about visiting sunny, friendly Australia :lol: SKS toting killer biker gangs, mobsters, I am afraid to find out what else they left out. :shock: Australia is starting to sound like Brooklyn.

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 5:58 am
by hoshow
Saw 8 Yugo SKS rifles yesterday all marked $449. I bought an SKS for $149 less than five years ago.. What is the world coming to?

Re: Russian vs Chinese

Posted: Wed Jan 30, 2013 6:01 am
by Junk Yard Dog
You bought all 8 right? You can flip them for double that next month :)