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Junk Yard Dog wrote:I was buying US milsurps like that once, but back then I was getting some of them for less than $150, and the sun would have exploded if someone had dared ask me for over $200. That was another world, alien from today in so many ways, build me a way back machine 'cause I don't wanna play anymore, I wanna to go home.
LOL I'm with you on that. If we could go back 15-20 years and purchase milsurp firearms and product from the Army/Navy stores that had real USGI product, the return on investment would be better than gold !!
The hell with the guns, 25-30 years back to be able to see departed friends and family again, to be free from all the back, knee, feet and arthritis pains, to live in the world that existed before religious fanatics flew planes into buildings and started the forever war, and not to have to think about this years elections. Send me back there and you can have whatever you want, everything I own, anything.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
If your way back machine works only for guns then it's 1903 you want to go back to, if you could see the things Bannerman Arms in NYC had listed in their 1903 catalog.....Spencer carbines, trapdoors, Henrys, Colt pistols, Union and Confederate generals uniforms, USS Maine recovered items, the list is endless and dirt cheap even adjusting for inflation. I would just drag my bed into the store and never leave.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Junk Yard Dog wrote:The hell with the guns, 25-30 years back to be able to see departed friends and family again, to be free from all the back, knee, feet and arthritis pains, to live in the world that existed before religious fanatics flew planes into buildings and started the forever war, and not to have to think about this years elections. Send me back there and you can have whatever you want, everything I own, anything.
"There are hundreds of millions of gun owners in this country, and not one of them will have an accident today. The only misuse of guns comes in environments where there are drugs, alcohol, bad parents, and undisciplined children. Period."
- Ted Nugent
This is what works for me to remove Cosmoline. I break the gun down and make an aluminum boat and fill with mineral spirits. I put the barrel, receiver and trigger into it an let soak. I take apart the bolt and do the same with those parts but in a small plastic tub. All the Cosmoline comes off is a very short time. As far as the wood you can add some mineral spirits to a rag and wipe or use WD40. Works great to get Cosmoline off of wood.
B e very careful with what you put on Mosin stocks, the Russians used shellac and it's not that strong. Cosmoline is only used on our stuff, the commies used cheap axle grease. Not everybody has the skill or equipment to weld aluminum, or the sheet aluminum to use to make that tub, good idea, you could start a small business making them and providing them to other members.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Junk Yard Dog wrote:If your way back machine works only for guns then it's 1903 you want to go back to, if you could see the things Bannerman Arms in NYC had listed in their 1903 catalog.....Spencer carbines, trapdoors, Henrys, Colt pistols, Union and Confederate generals uniforms, USS Maine recovered items, the list is endless and dirt cheap even adjusting for inflation. I would just drag my bed into the store and never leave.
Bannerman Arms sounds like it was one heck of an operation. It would be great to have something like that today. I have been thinking about buying Bannerman's as a collectible class all to themselves. However I was wondering how safe they are to actually shoot?
Bannerman arms was the largest buyer and seller of military surplus items from the 1860's to the 1960's when the last remnant of the company faded out. Their Manhattan store was the stuff gun collector dreams are made of, being that I am in NY I had the opportunity over the years of meeting older collectors who had bought things there in the 1920's and 30's. For example, they had a table piled high with what they called "guns for decoration" this table contained things like Spencer carbines, Sharp's rifles, Henry rifles, Brown Bess muskets, all being sold dirt cheap as they were not in demand as hunting arms anymore. This is the company that sold a huge arms shipment to the French government just prior to the Franco-Prussian war, and then bought it all back from the Victorious Prussians after the war. They had asked the Prussians before completing the French contract how they would react to this bit of business. The Prussians told them to sell the French as much as they could buy because the Prussians would own it all in a few months anyway, they were right about that. Many of the earlier milsurps around today are here thanks to Bannerman, otherwise they might well have been scrapped. My own collection has numerous early milsurps that link directly back to Bannerman, Snider, Martini Henry, several trapdoors, and so on. Bannerman was primarily a seller of surplus arms, however they often found themselves holding large numbers of firearms they just couldn't move. They would use these to create cartridge arms like the "Zulu" shotgun made from a French Tabatiere that was itself a Snider style conversion of earlier muskets 1822-1854. Later on they started manufacturing their own line of shotguns as well as prop rifles for Hollywood. I would not shoot any of the stuff they created from parts, much of this was intended for black powder, and has seen an enormous amount of abuse over the century's. Bannerman had his own island complete with castle right in the middle of the Hudson river, the castle was packed full of everything military you can imagine, Google it to see what it is like today.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Not for shooting, these were just an offshoot of Bannermans movie prop guns.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Very questionable receivers, questionable work as well.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Junk Yard Dog wrote:B e very careful with what you put on Mosin stocks, the Russians used shellac and it's not that strong. Cosmoline is only used on our stuff, the commies used cheap axle grease. Not everybody has the skill or equipment to weld aluminum, or the sheet aluminum to use to make that tub, good idea, you could start a small business making them and providing them to other members.
What about aluminum gutter sections from Home Depot, cut to size and capped? Or the plastic version lined with a couple of layers of heavy duty aluminum foil?
That is the most trouble I have ever seen anybody go to in order to avoid an hours work cleaning a rifle. Aluminum gutter sections would work if you have a means of cutting them and capping them so they will hold liquid without leaking. This would require solvent resistant sealant, and it probably would leak sooner or later.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Wow that is a lot of work. I have heard of guys putting the metal parts in a capped off tube of PVC with mineral spirits or hot water and letting them soak or shaking it but that takes things to a whole new level.
