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Deacon Krell wrote:Hi I'm Deacon Krell I bought my first M91/30 and wondered if anyone could tell me if it is a good one.
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Looks like a 1935 Tula 91/30 . These are refurbished during the post war period rifles, you should have no problems with it, a good start to a Mosin collection. Welcome to the board
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
asskickertom wrote:Hello,
I'm Tom and I bought my first gun (an SKS) 5 days ago. And I bought my my second (a 1938 Tula Mosin) 30 minutes later.
Off to a good start, welcome to the life, and the board
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Hello James from North Florida. Just got done with my first 91/30. She is a 1942 type 2 made in Izhevsk and all numbers are matching. The cosmoline was not to bad so I did a strip and did the hair dryer paper towel to start. Then boiled all small stuff and used the pot of water in the bath tub to do the barrell. Sprayed her down with some stuff called Barricade to displace any water. Funny as hot as the stuff was did not seem to be much water after they sat for a second. Cleaned the breach and chamber with a plastic bottle brush and Hopp's 9. Did the barrell with #9 and brass. Then I switched to some stuff call Safari Charlie to wash out the compleat barrell. Took the barrell outside and just sprayed till a good puddel was on the deck. Then started hitting her with the mops and #9 and another flush outside with Charlie. Inside started mopping again with new mop but dry clean one. Carefully pushed through a patch and after four change outs the patch was running clean. Ran her through with clean mop with gun oil and dry patch it till thinned it out and im done. The barrell looks good and the rifleing is still standing out ok. I did the crown check with a round and there was a good amount showing and no dammage to the crown aera.
Same good wash down with the bolt apart and all looks good there. Did a good spray down to all metal parts with Barricade and put her back together. The stock I did with the hair dryer lightley and paper towells 4 times then simple green.
She looks good to me and after I get some KG12 cleaners I will try her out ( can't wait ) and till then she sit on display. I will not change her or mod her.
I tryed to add a pic out of my computer but it's asking me for an address so no go.
It's better to know your weapon than whats for dinner.
Floridianson wrote:Hello James from North Florida. Just got done with my first 91/30. She is a 1942 type 2 made in Izhevsk and all numbers are matching. The cosmoline was not to bad so I did a strip and did the hair dryer paper towel to start. Then boiled all small stuff and used the pot of water in the bath tub to do the barrell. Sprayed her down with some stuff called Barricade to displace any water. Funny as hot as the stuff was did not seem to be much water after they sat for a second. Cleaned the breach and chamber with a plastic bottle brush and Hopp's 9. Did the barrell with #9 and brass. Then I switched to some stuff call Safari Charlie to wash out the compleat barrell. Took the barrell outside and just sprayed till a good puddel was on the deck. Then started hitting her with the mops and #9 and another flush outside with Charlie. Inside started mopping again with new mop but dry clean one. Carefully pushed through a patch and after four change outs the patch was running clean. Ran her through with clean mop with gun oil and dry patch it till thinned it out and im done. The barrell looks good and the rifleing is still standing out ok. I did the crown check with a round and there was a good amount showing and no dammage to the crown aera.
Same good wash down with the bolt apart and all looks good there. Did a good spray down to all metal parts with Barricade and put her back together. The stock I did with the hair dryer lightley and paper towells 4 times then simple green.
She looks good to me and after I get some KG12 cleaners I will try her out ( can't wait ) and till then she sit on display. I will not change her or mod her.
I tryed to add a pic out of my computer but it's asking me for an address so no go.
Welcome to the board James, sounds like you have things in hand, grease can be a pain in the ass, but cosmoline is worse. Cosmoline is our stuff, the commies couldn't afford it.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Thanks for the welcome. I picked up my 91/30 from my local FFL today, and I was immediately pleased with two things, 1) the bolt and receiver are stamped with matching numbers, and 2) the bore scoped out as totally pristine, almost looks as if it was never fired!! The only yuk was that it is still slathered in cosmoline, a great metal protectant, but nasty to clean off.http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.c ... =5&t=12037# I bought some brake cleaner spray and some carb cleaner. Time will tell which will be the more effective way to strip the gunk off the gun. I had bought some of the surplus Russian FMJ ammo (corrosive) because it was so cheap, but given the beautiful condition of the bore, there's no way I want to push corrosive ammo through this. I bought 150gr PPU/PRVI and 180gr WOLF JSP rounds to use instead, as I'd rather target shoot as if I were hunting and learn the quirks of the rounds that might buy me dinner one day. I also bought lots of nitrile gloves for cleaning up this dirty dog. Even under all that crud, it looks like it might be right purty one of these days.
I stand by God, His Word, and our State and Federal Constitutions.
I sure wish the government would do the same.
craiginct wrote:Thanks for the welcome. I picked up my 91/30 from my local FFL today, and I was immediately pleased with two things, 1) the bolt and receiver are stamped with matching numbers, and 2) the bore scoped out as totally pristine, almost looks as if it was never fired!! The only yuk was that it is still slathered in cosmoline, a great metal protectant, but nasty to clean off.http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.c ... =5&t=12037# I bought some brake cleaner spray and some carb cleaner. Time will tell which will be the more effective way to strip the gunk off the gun. I had bought some of the surplus Russian FMJ ammo (corrosive) because it was so cheap, but given the beautiful condition of the bore, there's no way I want to push corrosive ammo through this. I bought 150gr PPU/PRVI and 180gr WOLF JSP rounds to use instead, as I'd rather target shoot as if I were hunting and learn the quirks of the rounds that might buy me dinner one day. I also bought lots of nitrile gloves for cleaning up this dirty dog. Even under all that crud, it looks like it might be right purty one of these days.
Welcome to the board, keep the sprays off the wood or they will ruin the finish, they may also remove any commie bluing fix ( cheap black paint) that might be on the metal. Boiling water, simple green, soap and water, hopes 9, or just some rags to wipe the parts down, heating oil, kerosene, also work well.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Hello and let me try this again. Hello im James an im an addict. I read the rules here and I posted here first and it said it had to be reviewed. Well the first post is gone to web heaven I guess and will try to peice together the same thoughts. I saw the Mosin for the first time sitting in the window of the local gun shop like a little puppy and had to have it. I knew nothing about it just cash and dash. Got home and did the web thing and found this weapon is a bad machine and price wise well you know. All my numbers match but sadley not the bayonet. I did the hair dryer paper towel thing first and as a first timer I was like a kid on Christmas. I then did the boiling water thing on all parts but the stock and first timer again well big smile,it realy works. Almost a clean gun no hard work no chemicals and no money. I then cleaned with #9 and plastic bottle brush real well breach, chamber. Then I cleaned her again like we do with a weapon returning for a rest. My crown looks good and the projectile has a lot gap between it and case, bore still has some good pronounce. I did the hair dryer on the stock and then cleaned with simple green. Ok it's got me im an addict and I cant wait to heat her up. Here to learn here to share.
It's better to know your weapon than whats for dinner.
Floridianson wrote:Hello and let me try this again. Hello im James an im an addict. I read the rules here and I posted here first and it said it had to be reviewed. Well the first post is gone to web heaven I guess and will try to peice together the same thoughts. I saw the Mosin for the first time sitting in the window of the local gun shop like a little puppy and had to have it. I knew nothing about it just cash and dash. Got home and did the web thing and found this weapon is a bad machine and price wise well you know. All my numbers match but sadley not the bayonet. I did the hair dryer paper towel thing first and as a first timer I was like a kid on Christmas. I then did the boiling water thing on all parts but the stock and first timer again well big smile,it realy works. Almost a clean gun no hard work no chemicals and no money. I then cleaned with #9 and plastic bottle brush real well breach, chamber. Then I cleaned her again like we do with a weapon returning for a rest. My crown looks good and the projectile has a lot gap between it and case, bore still has some good pronounce. I did the hair dryer on the stock and then cleaned with simple green. Ok it's got me im an addict and I cant wait to heat her up. Here to learn here to share.
My name is James, a classic &historic rifle collector in the UK, just purchased my first Finn M39, and am learning about its history, any help you could lend in this quest would be excellent.
My name is James, a classic &historic rifle collector in the UK, just purchased my first Finn M39, and am learning about its history, any help you could lend in this quest would be excellent.
James
Welcome to the board James
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Just want to say hello from NC. I'm new to the wonderful world of Mosins, wish I had started years ago. And look forward to learning and seeing some cool pictures of history here. Thankful for forums like this.
m39-er wrote:Just want to say hello from NC. I'm new to the wonderful world of Mosins, wish I had started years ago. And look forward to learning and seeing some cool pictures of history here. Thankful for forums like this.
Welcome to the board
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
skizzums wrote:hello, new to the forum, but long time lover of nagants
btw, i talk in run-on sentences because my period is broken, wifes is still working fine though
Your wife reads that and the whole keyboard is likely to be busted off up your ass Welcome to the board
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Hi Im Doug and I just brought home my first mosin....It a 1935 Tula ....all numbers match on her and the bore looks new ....ill have to get some pic taken and posted...I also have a Yugo sks as well...
Hello, new here. Just picked up a 1952 Polish M44. I love it, just waiting for some $$ some I can get some ammo and wait till it gets warmer to go shoot her.
I searched the forum for "bayonet" and nothing turned up at all. I'm very surprised, as there is a host of contradictory info on the web about how to get one's 91/30 bayonet to properly fit the rifle. Some are saying to grind the bayonet lock ID, while some are saying to use a tapered drift to swedge the bayonet into submission so that it'll open enough to receive the bbl of the rifle.
I can sort of see both internet arguments, but they both have their weaknesses, too. Swedging the bayonet lock can over stress the metal if not done very gingerly. One hammer jockey was pooh-poohing getting "a few cracks in the metal" as it is just a cheap Russian gun anyway and that that's probably the way they would have treated it. On the other hand there are those who don't care about historical preservation at all and quickly plug in the dremel or other burnishing power tool to open the throat of that lock.
Anyone had any experience with finding a more modest way to ease the fit without risking damage to either bayonet or rifle?
I stand by God, His Word, and our State and Federal Constitutions.
I sure wish the government would do the same.
I really enjoy old military rifles. I just bought an M39 with a 1899 tang date. It just amazes me that a sophisticated piece of machinery built over 100 years ago really hasn't been improved on.
utengineer04 wrote:Hello, new here. Just picked up a 1952 Polish M44. I love it, just waiting for some $$ some I can get some ammo and wait till it gets warmer to go shoot her.
ks_shooter wrote:I really enjoy old military rifles. I just bought an M39 with a 1899 tang date. It just amazes me that a sophisticated piece of machinery built over 100 years ago really hasn't been improved on.
