Arisaka Type 99 Nagoyo Series #10

[etprescottazusa91]

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A late war Japanese Type 99, this rifle sat in a basement for 60 years according to the seller. A little TLC removed most of the rust on the metal without destroying what was left the original finish, of which there was little to begin with. The chrysanthemum, is partially struck though mostly intact. I like the striped wood on this rifle, the bore is in surprisingly good shape though on this series rifle not chrome lined. I've posted in past forums, A crude rifle yes, though with lots character and some history behind it, I've also put a few rounds thru it.

[millman]

[desdem12]

Nice one ET the wood looks cool

[Darryl]

Stripes on an Arasaka?.......I'll take it!

Wait, wrong forum!


Very nice rifle. One that has eluded me for over a year now.

You going to shoot it?

Dolk

[etprescottazusa91]

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Stripes on an Arasaka?.......I'll take it!

Wait, wrong forum!


Very nice rifle. One that has eluded me for over a year now.

You going to shoot it?

Dolk

To answer your question Dolk, I have shot it and even with the fixed peep site at hundred yards it shoots straight, at least it will blow apart a clay on the side of a pumice quarry. One thing I love as much as owning these old pieces of history is owning a functioning piece of history. I really like to feel the metal getting warm and see a little smoke whisping out of the action on an old rifle that has not been fired in decades, really nice to wonder, perhaps in this instance, If I may be the only person to fire it and see smoke from the end of the barrel since it was surrendered and entered the states, I'm just sentimental like that.
The wood, well looks like the Japanese were cutting some nice trees down towards the end, interesting note; the seller advertised it as a Jap trainer, when I saw it I knew exactly what is was and had to have it despite the poor condition upon delivery.

[bunkysdad]

Nice example. It looks like it has found a proper home where it is appreciated.

[Jumperwire]

Very nice example of a last ditch Arisaka. You can almost feel the urgency to get that rifle to the front. I mean really a wooden butt plate? That is just a cool rifle.

[WeldonHunter]

Really nice gun. I believe I've partially restored one of these about 22 years ago. It was a friend of mine's gun that had been neglected. What I mean by partially restored is actually I gave it a real good cleaning and made it functional again. I believe it was an Arisaka. It was a long time ago but it had the same insignia I believe, the rising sun.

I have a question about the ammo for these. My nieghbor says his dad has one he brought back from the war and has been hanging on the wall every since. He asked me to find some ammo for it and when I looked I found there's different stuff available. First thing is I found there's a semi-rimmed cartridge that won't/shouldn't chamber in these because the machinegun 7.7 round is way to hot for the bolt gun and that's why they put the rim on it. The other thing I found is the 7.7 is called 7.7 Arisaka and 7.7 Jap. Are these the same rounds as long as they aren't semi-rimmed which is also called by the same names sometimes?

[etprescottazusa91]

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Really nice gun. I believe I've partially restored one of these about 22 years ago. It was a friend of mine's gun that had been neglected. What I mean by partially restored is actually I gave it a real good cleaning and made it functional again. I believe it was an Arisaka. It was a long time ago but it had the same insignia I believe, the rising sun.

I have a question about the ammo for these. My nieghbor says his dad has one he brought back from the war and has been hanging on the wall every since. He asked me to find some ammo for it and when I looked I found there's different stuff available. First thing is I found there's a semi-rimmed cartridge that won't/shouldn't chamber in these because the machinegun 7.7 round is way to hot for the bolt gun and that's why they put the rim on it. The other thing I found is the 7.7 is called 7.7 Arisaka and 7.7 Jap. Are these the same rounds as long as they aren't semi-rimmed which is also called by the same names sometimes?

The Japanese ammo is referred too by both names 7.7 Arisaka and more commonly 7.7 Jap, your correct the Japanese also had a 7.7 rimmed round for machine gun use, the Japanese even produced a machine gun similar too the British Bren machine gun, both used rimmed ammo, one reason for rimmed machine gun ammo, widespread use in the Jap type 99 machine gun. Use the regular 7.7 rimless ammo in your Type 99 that is the correct ammunition.
The marking your looking at on the receiver is a chrysanthemum flower denoting, or the symbol for the Japanese, or as they termed it the Chrysanthemum Empire. The chrysanthemum's were ground off when the Japanese surrendered their rifles at the end of the war as the Chrysanthemum Empire was no more, GI's were also required to deface captured trophy rifles as well at wars end. Rifles with intact chrysanthemum's or as we call them, mum's for short are the best examples you can get, though rifles with ground mum's are okay also, just different history.

[WeldonHunter]

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Really nice gun. I believe I've partially restored one of these about 22 years ago. It was a friend of mine's gun that had been neglected. What I mean by partially restored is actually I gave it a real good cleaning and made it functional again. I believe it was an Arisaka. It was a long time ago but it had the same insignia I believe, the rising sun.

I have a question about the ammo for these. My nieghbor says his dad has one he brought back from the war and has been hanging on the wall every since. He asked me to find some ammo for it and when I looked I found there's different stuff available. First thing is I found there's a semi-rimmed cartridge that won't/shouldn't chamber in these because the machinegun 7.7 round is way to hot for the bolt gun and that's why they put the rim on it. The other thing I found is the 7.7 is called 7.7 Arisaka and 7.7 Jap. Are these the same rounds as long as they aren't semi-rimmed which is also called by the same names sometimes?

The Japanese ammo is referred too by both names 7.7 Arisaka and more commonly 7.7 Jap, your correct the Japanese also had a 7.7 rimmed round for machine gun use, the Japanese even produced a machine gun similar too the British Bren machine gun, both used rimmed ammo, one reason for rimmed machine gun ammo, widespread use in the Jap type 99 machine gun. Use the regular 7.7 rimless ammo in your Type 99 that is the correct ammunition.
The marking your looking at on the receiver is a chrysanthemum flower denoting, or the symbol for the Japanese, or as they termed it the Chrysanthemum Empire. The chrysanthemum's were ground off when the Japanese surrendered their rifles at the end of the war as the Chrysanthemum Empire was no more, GI's were also required to deface captured trophy rifles as well at wars end. Rifles with intact chrysanthemum's or as we call them, mum's for short are the best examples you can get, though rifles with ground mum's are okay also, just different history.

Thanks for clearing that up. I'd pretty much come to the conclusion that they (Arisaka and Jap) were the same but didn't want to tell my buddy it was ok to use until I knew for sure. Actually I asked CL at LibertyTreeCollectors and he told me roughly the same thing but wasn't 100% sure. I was sure about the semi-rimmed after researching these, problem is not all sellers list the semi-rimmed as such so you have to be careful before ordering some of the surplus. I saw the mum referrence in your original post after I posted. Wasn't sure about that. I thought the mum was the same as the rising sun. See I'm learning. Thanks a lot.

[etprescottazusa91]

WeldonHunter, your friends rifle sounds like a very desirable Arisaka, if the rifle your describing is a bring back rifle that's been hanging on a wall for 65 years you and your buddy really need to run a patch down the bore and get out to the range and shoot that rifle. It will be a great feeling being the first people to get the metal hot since last held by a Japanese soldier.

[WeldonHunter]

WeldonHunter, your friends rifle sounds like a very desirable Arisaka, if this is a bring back rifle that's been hanging on a wall for 65 years you and your buddy really need to run a patch down the bore and get out to the range and shoot this rifle. It will be a great feeling being the first people to get the metal hot since last held by a Japanese soldier.

I'm going to send him an email and get him to bring it by sometime so we can go out back here and shoot it. First I'll get him to bring it by so I can see what it looks like and take some pictures for you guys. It may be a real turd. If it's been hanging on the wall that long and not cared for it may be in real rough shape. It's real humid here and I've had a hard time just keeping the rust away from my guns the last 4 years. I lived in California before. Very low humidity there. We're also going to have to get some ammo for it. This all started with him asking where to get some and well what it actually uses. We got that part straight now so we're ahead of the game.

[etprescottazusa91]

WeldonHunter, your friends rifle sounds like a very desirable Arisaka, if this is a bring back rifle that's been hanging on a wall for 65 years you and your buddy really need to run a patch down the bore and get out to the range and shoot this rifle. It will be a great feeling being the first people to get the metal hot since last held by a Japanese soldier.

I'm going to send him an email and get him to bring it by sometime so we can go out back here and shoot it. First I'll get him to bring it by so I can see what it looks like and take some pictures for you guys. It may be a real turd. If it's been hanging on the wall that long and not cared for it may be in real rough shape. It's real humid here and I've had a hard time just keeping the rust away from my guns the last 4 years. I lived in California before. Very low humidity there. We're also going to have to get some ammo for it. This all started with him asking where to get some and well what it actually uses. We got that part straight now so we're ahead of the game.

WeldonHunter,
If you can obtain some pics in the future of the rifle your describing, please post I would not mind seeing it.

[WeldonHunter]

WeldonHunter, your friends rifle sounds like a very desirable Arisaka, if this is a bring back rifle that's been hanging on a wall for 65 years you and your buddy really need to run a patch down the bore and get out to the range and shoot this rifle. It will be a great feeling being the first people to get the metal hot since last held by a Japanese soldier.

I'm going to send him an email and get him to bring it by sometime so we can go out back here and shoot it. First I'll get him to bring it by so I can see what it looks like and take some pictures for you guys. It may be a real turd. If it's been hanging on the wall that long and not cared for it may be in real rough shape. It's real humid here and I've had a hard time just keeping the rust away from my guns the last 4 years. I lived in California before. Very low humidity there. We're also going to have to get some ammo for it. This all started with him asking where to get some and well what it actually uses. We got that part straight now so we're ahead of the game.

WeldonHunter,
If you can obtain some pics in the future of the rifle your describing, please post I would not mind seeing it.

Ok here's an update. My buddy came by yesterday and I told him to bring it by so we can take some pictures of it. Don't know when that might happen but if I have to poke him a bit to make it happen I will. I'm interested in seeing it too. He said it does have the Mum on it too. I told him about you guys wanting to see it and I also told him if it's in good enough shape to fire I'll buy some ammo for it. I'll start a new thread when I get some pics.

[WALKERS210]

I bought one way back around 1964-65 for a whopping $3.00 at an old barn/junk sale place. The best I remember the mum was intact, but had about 5-6 inches of crud or something in the barrel. I had no one around for guidance but was able to sand down the metal, clear the barrel, then to protect the metal I painted it with a gold enamel. Around Jan 1965 I sold the rifle to a boy that lived behind our house only because it was a non-functional weapon. His father had fought in the pacific and would not allow weapons of any type. The kid grew up, became one of the best gun smiths around. I have attempted to buy the rifle back for over 40 years with no luck. Will not make that mistake twice.

[etprescottazusa91]

With some of the interest shown in Jap rifles lately I'll bump this one up for some of the newer members.

[full clip]

Nice.
Having a little trouble locating ammo for mine. Taking it to a gunsmith today to have it check out.

[Rongo]

Nice.
Having a little trouble locating ammo for mine. Taking it to a gunsmith today to have it check out.

I got mine at Sportsmans Guide. Of course I was able to just stop in at the warehouse store since I was in the neighborhood.

7.7x58 Jap

[WeldonHunter]

Nice.
Having a little trouble locating ammo for mine. Taking it to a gunsmith today to have it check out.

I went throught this a few months ago looking for some ammo for my buddy's rifle and there's not a lot of choices available. Here's a few more. http://gun-deals.com/ammo.php?caliber=7.7+Arisaka SGAmmo carries it from time to time too but he's out of it right now.

[etprescottazusa91]

Nice.
Having a little trouble locating ammo for mine. Taking it to a gunsmith today to have it check out.

I got mine at Sportsmans Guide. Of course I was able to just stop in at the warehouse store since I was in the neighborhood.

7.7x58 Jap

Thanks guys, nice to see Hornady making 7.7 Jap ammo.