How many P-17 were made?
How many P-17 were made?
Anybody know how many P-17 were made by each factory?
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Re: How many P-17 were made?
I dug through some info and found these numbers,
Winchester-580,000
Remington -600,000
Eddystone-1,354,701
These numbers from The U.S. Rifle, caliber .30, M1917 by By Dick Culver
Hatcher’s Notebook claims 2,202,429 total made, at a cost of $26 a piece
The American Enfield claims 2,534,701 total made
Winchester-580,000
Remington -600,000
Eddystone-1,354,701
These numbers from The U.S. Rifle, caliber .30, M1917 by By Dick Culver
Hatcher’s Notebook claims 2,202,429 total made, at a cost of $26 a piece
The American Enfield claims 2,534,701 total made
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Re: How many P-17 were made?
Ok that's total of the M17,but I'm looking for how many of them became P17 if the number is known.
Re: How many P-17 were made?
here's a good one, how many 1917s were sent to Russia as aid for the 1917 Revolution?
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Re: How many P-17 were made?
p17 is an incorrect term, there is no such thing as a P17.Woodbeef wrote:Ok that's total of the M17,but I'm looking for how many of them became P17 if the number is known.
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The Pattern 1917 and 1914 rifles were really well built tools of war. It's too bad what has happened to many of them over the years, being sporterized as they were. After WWI they were a common rifle to be reworked into hunting rifles. Many had the rear sight protectors cut off and scope mounts installed as well as re-chambering. The Brits dumped truck loads of the rifles into the ocean after the war just to get rid of them. What a loss. As to how many were made I'd like to know how many survived to our time. I know mine will stay all original and I will never sell it. I value the rifle more than my Garand.
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thats it, the Mosin Nagant 91/30 is now renamed the Mauser nugget 50 bmg since we are making guns up lol
the 1917 (30/06) was classified as MODEL 1917 even the model 1917s that were led lease to the Brits were still MODEL 1917
the pattern 14 (.303 British) is the pattern 14
black jack put his ass on the line for the yanks to remain under U.S. command in WW1 this went for American property also.
the 1917 (30/06) was classified as MODEL 1917 even the model 1917s that were led lease to the Brits were still MODEL 1917
the pattern 14 (.303 British) is the pattern 14
black jack put his ass on the line for the yanks to remain under U.S. command in WW1 this went for American property also.
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Re: How many P-17 were made?
Easy winchester 17 
There is a mauser mosin already so you will have to give it a different name. 
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ok lol, pattern 91/2057 Mosin glock in the .177 bmg calimeterdesdem12 wrote:Easy winchester 17
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See now that is much better. All mall ninjas will be able to identify these right off.
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Hey Burrhead, I'm just messing with ya buddy
I am just overly sensitive to model 1917 being under the wrong name and I hate when people abort the SKS by taking stock in Tapco and ATI
I am just overly sensitive to model 1917 being under the wrong name and I hate when people abort the SKS by taking stock in Tapco and ATI
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Re: How many P-17 were made?
Many of the reworked 1917's were sent to China during WW2 as Lend Lease aid, we got some of them back during Korea, and the rest as surplus in the early 1990's. China removed the US markings on many of these, Numrich had a bunch of them around 1994, I examined a few, not much wear, but the scrubbed markings looked like crap, a friend bought two, I passed and bought a regular GI WW2 rework with markings intact. The China rifles were around a hundred bucks each I think.
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No offense taken, we all need correcting from time to time. Heck I got blasted on the old board one time for not calling it a "Pattern 1917" so no big deal. I'd still like to know how many un-altered ones are out there. I do like my Eddystone and I have a rather rough Pattern 1914 (P14) that I shoot but the M1917 is a much nicer condition rifle, I think it was reworked for WWII but it still has it's original barrel.
Re: How many P-17 were made?
Well I can't provide a number of how many are out there I can say there are enough not to worry about them disappearing from the market. However the ones out there are going through a crazy price increase, In fact, they are pretty much averaging the same as 1903s and low grade M1s.Burrhead wrote:No offense taken, we all need correcting from time to time. Heck I got blasted on the old board one time for not calling it a "Pattern 1917" so no big deal. I'd still like to know how many un-altered ones are out there. I do like my Eddystone and I have a rather rough Pattern 1914 (P14) that I shoot but the M1917 is a much nicer condition rifle, I think it was reworked for WWII but it still has it's original barrel.
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Don't forget the US rifle Model of 1892-98, the legendary Krag, if you are gonna collect US bolt rifles then you need one. Smoothest action of any military bolt rifle ever made 
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Re: How many P-17 were made?
I hope they have 2 grand for those have you seen the gb prices lately?Junk Yard Dog wrote:Don't forget the US rifle Model of 1892-98, the legendary Krag, if you are gonna collect US bolt rifles then you need one. Smoothest action of any military bolt rifle ever made
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Re: How many P-17 were made?
No, but I have seen the one that is leaning against my bedroom wall In fact, here it is right now
In fact, here it is right now Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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oh you are such a tease, hows about a full body shot of that there Krag?Junk Yard Dog wrote:No, but I have seen the one that is leaning against my bedroom wall
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Re: How many P-17 were made?
One of the 1917's
Pattern 1914
US Model of 1898 Springfield
US rifle Model of 1903
US rifle Model of 1903-A3
US Rifle caliber .30 M1
US rifle caliber .30 M1 Carbine
Some of the US Springfields 1866-1888
Pattern 1914
US Model of 1898 Springfield
US rifle Model of 1903
US rifle Model of 1903-A3
US Rifle caliber .30 M1
US rifle caliber .30 M1 Carbine
Some of the US Springfields 1866-1888
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Re: How many P-17 were made?
HOLY M#*@!@^@ S#*t 
"But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security." -Declaration of Independence