1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
It has been over three and a half years since I have purchased a gun of any kind. For my 10 year anniversary I bought myself a couple of 91/38s while the wife got a quilting machine. Life, kids, work, and other priorities have gotten in the way.
With that said I still every once in a while like to peruse gunbroker and every once in a while throw up a low bid hoping it sticks. A few months ago I did just that on what I consider a real beauty of an m38. It is a 1939 with a first-pattern stock. Stock shows wear but is very solid and hand guard is nice without cracks. The buttplate, barrel, and mag plate all match but the bolt does not. There are no Finnish markings and no import mark. It came with this sling on it too. I actually already own an all matching 1939 Finnish-captured m38 with a first-pattern stock but at an under 500 dollar final bid it’s hard not to be excited to add another rare carbine to the collection.
With that said I still every once in a while like to peruse gunbroker and every once in a while throw up a low bid hoping it sticks. A few months ago I did just that on what I consider a real beauty of an m38. It is a 1939 with a first-pattern stock. Stock shows wear but is very solid and hand guard is nice without cracks. The buttplate, barrel, and mag plate all match but the bolt does not. There are no Finnish markings and no import mark. It came with this sling on it too. I actually already own an all matching 1939 Finnish-captured m38 with a first-pattern stock but at an under 500 dollar final bid it’s hard not to be excited to add another rare carbine to the collection.
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Re: 1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
Nice.
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Re: 1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
My guess is that's a bringhome from Korea or Vietnam with that look and lack of import markings, I don't even see any post war refurb stamps. That is a very nice find.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: 1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
Wow the stories she could share if she could talk nice
Re: 1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
Now that is neat!
Re: 1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
Seeing I don't know much about slings what is the story with it.
Oh and sweet rifle by the way.
Oh and sweet rifle by the way.
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Re: 1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
Those slings were on the market in the early 90's when I bought five for two bucks each. They were not sold as Mosin slings, I am not sure they pinpointed any rifle at all that they were for. I think they were identified years ago on the old board, but I forget what they came off of. Chinese maybe? There was a lot of stuff coming in from China at the time.
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Wow that's great 
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Now there is a rifle that is totally unmollested! I like it
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That's a keeper for sure!!!!
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That is something to keep and cherish.
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My brother and I were out hitting the gun/pawn shops today and I ran across a gorgeous '42, M-38, all matching, nice wood, in a '38 stock. Shop was asking $499.00 which generally means $450.00 OTD with that guy. I was tempted. The same shop also had a pair of MAS rifles in nice condition asking around $900.00. He even had some ammo for them. I am seeing an increase, though modest, of mil-surps coming back to gun shop racks and priced at prices that aren't highway robbery. I wonder if it is just a local thing?
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I would've picked up the M38 at that price, since I don't have one in the stable yet
What models were the MAS rifles, MAS 36 or what?
I picked up my (1948-49) P series MAS 36 in 2012 for $250.00 and it looks brand new.
My last records update (Late last year) had the average price at around $700.00 (Based on completed GB auctions). If they are going for $900.00 a piece locally, I might need to do another price check/update on all my guns.
What models were the MAS rifles, MAS 36 or what?
I picked up my (1948-49) P series MAS 36 in 2012 for $250.00 and it looks brand new.
My last records update (Late last year) had the average price at around $700.00 (Based on completed GB auctions). If they are going for $900.00 a piece locally, I might need to do another price check/update on all my guns.
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Re: 1939 m38 in First-Pattern Stock
I paid $45 for my Mas36, of course that was a long time ago before the whole world went to shit and things got crazy. $900 for a Mas? I will be dipped in shit first, just feeding that rifle requires handloading now, and the brass isn't cheap. It's cool owning pieces of history, but not when you have to mortgage the house to get in the game. If I had to pay todays prices I would own one gun.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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