Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
Hello in fooking for help in identification of some proofmarks on a Russian 91/30 made Isvesk 1943. I already identified some marks but not all. What's such (c) on receiver ? And whats such C or 0 between year and serial? Why a double O O on left dlside and another (O) circled on right side? What's small (m) circled on barrel shank and also receiver? Another unknown marks on right of sovietic logo. Thank you.
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Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
I have already searched everywhere more info on it, on every site and forum, some marks are unlisted everywhere ans unknow. Also the structure of receiver seem look line a sniper rifle with round high wall receiver. No holes inside the receiver, its not a reconverted sniper rifle.
Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
Bottom side and left side under the stock. Where Is possibile see the separate 0 0
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Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
. 3rd picture down of his, I don't remember seeing before, 7.62 Russ ? Do I see waffenmark ?
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I'm thinking it's German capture
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Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
I think it's a refurb sold through Germany. I think Centerbe is in Italy.
“Freedom is the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.” George Orwell, English novelist, essayist, and critic, 1903-1950
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.
C. S. Lewis
Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
Yes im in Italy, i omissed 2 group of marks (because already identified), one on the left its proof of the (modern) german bench fire test , the second on the right (cat 2330) its the italian (modern) fire test proofmarks. My question was only about original russian proof on it. A double O O on left side under the stock. The large C on top between serial and year, the small (c) circled) on receiver, 2 small (m) and an unknow marks on right side of sovietic logo (unknow). Some strange tombstone marks at right side near the other double (O) russian proof.
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Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
steelbuttplate wrote: ↑Mon Jan 31, 2022 4:07 pm. 3rd picture down of his, I don't remember seeing before, 7.62 Russ ? Do I see waffenmark ?
What you are point out are the fire test of modern german beench, Im was only asking about russian unknow marks.
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Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
The double 00 and concentric circles are Accuracy proof marks. The rest are, unknown.
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But concentric circles does not substitute the double 00? why here there are both of them?
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Re: Proofmarks help on Isvesk 91/30
Being produced by overworked people that were vodka powered and too many stamps laying around at Izhevsk, you get days of drunks wandering around with stamps in hand.
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This is the coolest explanation I've ever read XD
The large C in the middle between year and serial its caused by other vodka?
The large C in the middle between year and serial its caused by other vodka?