On the M69/71 Vetterli does the M1863 or M1871 bayonets sit inline/under the barrel when installed or off to the side like the bayonet does on the Mosin Nagant rifles?
For some reason I thought I saw a picture some years back that showed it inline/under the barrel. But after an exhaustive google search I can't find a picture of the cruciform bayonet installed on a Vetterli period, so I can see the correct orientation. I am looking for missing items to complete my weapons (IE bayonets, cleaning rods, slings etc).
Well I have a Vetterli style/series bayonet here and apparently I've had it for several years. It fits on the rifle and sits off to the side like on the Mosins. If that is correct all I need for this rifle would be the cleaning rod and sling to complete it.
Seeing all the bayonets I see for the Vetterli are in the $150.00 or plus range and I got this bayonet for free, it would be awesome if this is correct. If not I'll keep looking.
Swiss Vetterli Bayonet?
Swiss Vetterli Bayonet?
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Re: Swiss Vetterli Bayonet?
That's the one. Most I ever paid for one is $25, I have three or four, most people just don't know what they are and end up pricing them cheap. I think one came with the rifles.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: Swiss Vetterli Bayonet?
Awesome, here I was looking for one online and I had a proper one here all along. Well that made my day......Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 1:30 am That's the one. Most I ever paid for one is $25, I have three or four, most people just don't know what they are and end up pricing them cheap. I think one came with the rifles.
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Re: Swiss Vetterli Bayonet?
Good Gawd I was just looking at the Vetterli and with the bayonet, it's just shy if not 6 foot with in installed.
You can reach out and touch the enemy with that beast, before he's even in the same zip code as you....!
You can reach out and touch the enemy with that beast, before he's even in the same zip code as you....!
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Re: Swiss Vetterli Bayonet?
That's typical of these mid 19th century rifles, the Trapdoor Springfield's are as, or even more impressive . Go back to the early US smoothbore muskets and the Brown Bess and you have something longer than a spear. In war at that time bayonet charges were the norm, not the exception, in the single shot front loader days you would be closing with the enemy using cold steel. You could hope the other guys weapon was shorter than yours and he has shorter arms also.
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Re: Swiss Vetterli Bayonet?
Bayonets were also used in formation to fight off cavalry, so a long reach was necessary.Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Sat Sep 12, 2020 8:13 pm That's typical of these mid 19th century rifles, the Trapdoor Springfield's are as, or even more impressive . Go back to the early US smoothbore muskets and the Brown Bess and you have something longer than a spear. In war at that time bayonet charges were the norm, not the exception, in the single shot front loader days you would be closing with the enemy using cold steel. You could hope the other guys weapon was shorter than yours and he has shorter arms also.


