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New POW/MIA flag, finally arrived. Need to do some adjustments to the clips and the rope length. The US flag keeps going behind the halyard some how. So I might have the POW/MIA flag clips slightly off, or too much slack, or both. 

Didn't have that issue until I decided to fly a second flag from the pole. Also didn't have that issue years ago when flying two flags from the same pole. 

Regardless it looks pretty damn good, both of my flags are double sided, embroidered flags, not silkscreen flags.
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Nice :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

My buddy not far from you hit an estate sale this weekend and found a US capital flow flag. This is not the average such flag, presented by the Navy to a 22 year vet on his retirement in 1979 with Navy letter and documentation. $40 is what the family decided it was worth. Don't know what to think about a family that would let suck a thing pass out of their hands, but I will be ending up with it next month. I will put it with the stack of memorial flags.
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Nice :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

My buddy not far from you hit an estate sale this weekend and found a US capital flown flag. This is not the average such flag, presented by the Navy to a 22 year vet on his retirement in 1979 with Navy letter and documentation. $40 is what the family decided it was worth. Don't know what to think about a family that would let such a thing pass out of their hands, but I will be ending up with it next month. I will put it with the stack of memorial flags.
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Little flag story for yall, back when I had two poles planted, flying the US and POW/MIA flags from separate poles. 

Years ago I had a ocean going tug boat Captain that lived across the street from us, he could see the flags from the highway when he got back into town. Stated he knew he was home when he could see the flags.

He remarked to me one time that "The flags are the first to greet me when I come home after being at sea, and they greet me every morning when I'm home, I couldn't ask for a better view."

So he felt they were as much his flags as mine. He would always order extra flags, when he ordered them for his tug, and when I was on deployments he'd replaced the flags as needed, and if I was home he'd drop the flags off. This went on for dang near 15 years, until he moved. I never had to pay for a replacement flag during that time.
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Here are my memorial/presentation flags:

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The one on the left was presented to my maternal grandmother by the United States Army in November of 1943. Mom was born in May of 1944.

The one on the right was presented to my paternal grandmother in 2005 when my grandfather died. However, due to an error on the part of the funeral director, they overlooked the note that he was a veteran and a presentation flag was needed. Fortunately, I had the other flag at home so I brought it to the funeral home for the service here in Tucson. The burial was in Houston, Texas and the same flag was taken to the Houston service and interment. The the one on the right arrived after the Tucson service and my grandmother kept it. When she died, I got it.
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You might be surprised at how often I find these flags at flea markets. Sometimes folded, other times draped over something, a few even in shadowbox's. Write the name of the person the flags honor on a card and slip it into the fold. None of us live forever, and one day any of these flags could end up in the hands of someone at a flea market. At the moment I have lost count of how many I have, more than ten, maybe more than 20.
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I will do that. Having flags from different eras also documents the changes in manufacturing. The World War II flags have a cloth star stitched to both sides of the blue field where the current flag uses cheaper embroidering to make the stars. Not visible in the photograph are the eyelets on the fly. The current flag uses standard brass eyelets while the WWII era flag has heavy metal rings attached to a metal tab that is sewn into the fly.
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Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:57 am You might be surprised at how often I find these flags at flea markets. Sometimes folded, other times draped over something, a few even in shadowbox's. Write the name of the person the flags honor on a card and slip it into the fold. None of us live forever, and one day any of these flags could end up in the hands of someone at a flea market. At the moment I have lost count of how many I have, more than ten, maybe more than 20.
I've got my dad's internment flag and it's encased in a shadow box, my wife will get her dad's, and mine when it's time. My retirement flag is encased in my shadow box, and my other retirement flag is packed in a safe right now. Ended up with two, first one went MIA at the unit mailroom, then after the replacement flag and certificate showed up, they found the original one.

My oldest son will inherit all the flags after my wife, and his son will inherit them along with my son's (His dad's) internment flag.

I'm thinking of the note like you suggested Jim, that is a great and smart idea.
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ffuries wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:21 pm
Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:57 am You might be surprised at how often I find these flags at flea markets. Sometimes folded, other times draped over something, a few even in shadowbox's. Write the name of the person the flags honor on a card and slip it into the fold. None of us live forever, and one day any of these flags could end up in the hands of someone at a flea market. At the moment I have lost count of how many I have, more than ten, maybe more than 20.
I've got my dad's internment flag and it's encased in a shadow box, my wife will get her dad's, and mine when it's time. My retirement flag is encased in my shadow box, and my other retirement flag is packed in a safe right now. Ended up with two, first one went MIA at the unit mailroom, then after the replacement flag and certificate showed up, they found the original one.

My oldest son will inherit all the flags after my wife, and his son will inherit them along with my son's (His dad's) internment flag.

I'm thinking of the note like you suggested Jim, that is a great and smart idea.
For now the flags will be in known hands, but 100 years on, assuming anything is left, some distant relative of a generation yet unborn would probably like to know who's flags they were. Same thing with pictures, you don't mark names, dates, and places on them for yourself, unless planning for Alzheimer's, you mark them for whoever ends up with them in the far future. Hundreds of times I have looked at some old unmarked picture and wondered who the fuck is this daffy looking bastard.
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Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:29 pm
ffuries wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:21 pm
Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:57 am You might be surprised at how often I find these flags at flea markets. Sometimes folded, other times draped over something, a few even in shadowbox's. Write the name of the person the flags honor on a card and slip it into the fold. None of us live forever, and one day any of these flags could end up in the hands of someone at a flea market. At the moment I have lost count of how many I have, more than ten, maybe more than 20.
I've got my dad's internment flag and it's encased in a shadow box, my wife will get her dad's, and mine when it's time. My retirement flag is encased in my shadow box, and my other retirement flag is packed in a safe right now. Ended up with two, first one went MIA at the unit mailroom, then after the replacement flag and certificate showed up, they found the original one.

My oldest son will inherit all the flags after my wife, and his son will inherit them along with my son's (His dad's) internment flag.

I'm thinking of the note like you suggested Jim, that is a great and smart idea.
For now the flags will be in known hands, but 100 years on, assuming anything is left, some distant relative of a generation yet unborn would probably like to know who's flags they were. Same thing with pictures, you don't mark names, dates, and places on them for yourself, unless planning for Alzheimer's, you mark them for whoever ends up with them in the far future. Hundreds of times I have looked at some old unmarked picture and wondered who the fuck is this daffy looking bastard.
Good point, hence why all printed pictures here have information written on the back, all electronic pictures on a disc have a cheat sheet or index with the image number and all the pertinent information (Which is a tedious task for me), as I have some discs with several thousand of pictures on them. But if you do it as you save the pictures on the computer from the camera or cell phones it's a lot easier.
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Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 5:29 pm
ffuries wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 12:21 pm
Junk Yard Dog wrote: ↑Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:57 am You might be surprised at how often I find these flags at flea markets. Sometimes folded, other times draped over something, a few even in shadowbox's. Write the name of the person the flags honor on a card and slip it into the fold. None of us live forever, and one day any of these flags could end up in the hands of someone at a flea market. At the moment I have lost count of how many I have, more than ten, maybe more than 20.
I've got my dad's internment flag and it's encased in a shadow box, my wife will get her dad's, and mine when it's time. My retirement flag is encased in my shadow box, and my other retirement flag is packed in a safe right now. Ended up with two, first one went MIA at the unit mailroom, then after the replacement flag and certificate showed up, they found the original one.

My oldest son will inherit all the flags after my wife, and his son will inherit them along with my son's (His dad's) internment flag.

I'm thinking of the note like you suggested Jim, that is a great and smart idea.
For now the flags will be in known hands, but 100 years on, assuming anything is left, some distant relative of a generation yet unborn would probably like to know who's flags they were. Same thing with pictures, you don't mark names, dates, and places on them for yourself, unless planning for Alzheimer's, you mark them for whoever ends up with them in the far future. Hundreds of times I have looked at some old unmarked picture and wondered who the fuck is this daffy looking bastard.
I have a box of old family photo's with pictures of an old farm house located in Illinois someplace, written on back of the photo's are notations that read "side view" "rear view" and " front porch" Write down names of places and people on the back of pictures, like Jim said, 100 years on this info is priceless, don't get me wrong. I appreciate some relative confirming what angle of their house I'm seeing, there is info that needs to be recorded and some things future generations can figure out for themselves, like knowing that the porch was in the front.
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