1952 Tula SKS

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It would cause accuracy issues.
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Roger, ill shim both sides
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Just an update i shimed only the front as i couldnt get any shims to fit in the rear. I used .22lr casings by cutting the rim off and flatting the remaining brass. It took about 4 casings on each side of the plate that meets the stock and that the cleaning rod goes into. So far no wiggle. Ill report back when i go to the range next
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Blakefromminnesota wrote:Just an update i shimed only the front as i couldnt get any shims to fit in the rear. I used .22lr casings by cutting the rim off and flatting the remaining brass. It took about 4 casings on each side of the plate that meets the stock and that the cleaning rod goes into. So far no wiggle. Ill report back when i go to the range next

If she has tightened up with the shims, I think you will see more consistent groups. It would be interesting to see a before and after target. :thumbsup:
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Well my before target was just a box, the sights were way off high and too the left next time i go to the range and get it sighted in ill post up a target for you. Thank you for your help!
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In case you havn't figured it out yet, someone has put a Chinese or Yugo bayonet on the Russian rifle. Both of those have the angled notch, my '51 Russian has a square notch, as do several I've looked at on GB. :2cents:
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steelbuttplate wrote:In case you havn't figured it out yet, someone has put a Chinese or Yugo bayonet on the Russian rifle. Both of those have the angled notch, my '51 Russian has a square notch, as do several I've looked at on GB. :2cents:

This was already pointed out in the 3rd post on this topic. :thumbsup:
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Adjusted the sights today and went to the range, went from shooting all over the place high and left to about a 3-4 inch group at 85 yards (most i could get from where i was) and to me thats not too horrible what do you think grease monkey? The rifleing looks perfect in it and its a nice shiney bore. I think a steady rest would improve that better instead of using a mini van door as a rest lol.
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Not bad :thumbsup: One of my Russians is equal to that at that distance. Glad to hear the shotgun patterning is under control now. Something else to try different brands of ammo and see how it does, Golden Tiger or Yugo M67 usually works really well. Just find a flavor it likes.

Is adding another shim in the nose possible, just to see if it has an added effect? As It stands, I'd be happy with it, and just practice more, but thats me. :thumbsup:

A steady rest would help too. :D
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I can try to fit another shim, so uh i was looking at it lastnight while i was just cleaning some stuff and seeing if the shims conformed to the stock and things and how rare is it to find a SA mark on an sks? Cause uh lets just say theres a very very faint one on the bottom rear of the reciver
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Tried to take a pic but i cant get it to show up. Its very faint
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I have never seen a [SA] Finnish stamped SKS.. :shock: Especially one that is [SA] stamped like Mosins, SVTs and other small arms, and then would have been recaptured to be imported here from Russia. As far as I know, Russo-Finland conflicts ended with the Continuation War in '44, 8 years before that rifle was made.

Would definitely need a good clear photo to ID the mark if at all possible. :thumbsup:
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Im trying to get one but its just so faint. Looks like the mark on my buddys m91 finn capture. But its definitely there.
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Grease monkey im gonna post a pic up, i dont know if youll be able to see it but i hope you can. Its definitely intresting
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My finger is just below the "A" i cant get the box and the "S" on camera but they are there.
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Blakefromminnesota wrote:My finger is just below the "A" i cant get the box and the "S" on camera but they are there.
I'm trying real hard to see that, it's not even a good finger pic. Like GM said, if there is one it's put there in the last few yrs, by Bubba. He does that when he can. :2cents: :2cents:
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My camera dowsnt like to focus with close things lol. I know its a horrible pic. That option of bubba putting it there ran through my mind. But it looks identical to my buddies real finn capture m91. Unless bubba is just that good lol. Idk still interesting to me :p
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I can't see it. A clear well lit shot would really help if at all possible :thumbsup:

I did speak with a collector friend of mine to get his thoughts, he has collected numerous Russian and other SKS inspection stamps/serials etc., and he has never seen a Finnish [SA] stamped Russian SKS. I also downloaded and sent him the photo you posted, he came to the same conclusion, need a better shot, he couldn't make it out either.

I personally, can think of no reason for an SKS to be drug in to Finland, get torn down and get [SA] stamped and then somehow get drug back to Russia, Russia then refurbs this same rifle along the line, then in turn it gets imported. Also, most Finnish weapons, the [SA] stamp is above the wood line on the barrel shank or lug, in plain sight, why would Finland hide this one mark on this one rifle.

Don't get me wrong, it sounds like an interesting mark, my curiosity is peaked.. :thumbsup:

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Blakefromminnesota wrote:My finger is just below the "A" i cant get the box and the "S" on camera but they are there.
I'm trying real hard to see that, it's not even a good finger pic. Like GM said, if there is one it's put there in the last few yrs, by Bubba. He does that when he can. :2cents: :2cents:
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My guess is it was bubba then lol, like i said its struck so light that its hard to get a clear shot. Ill try to take a better one when i get home :D
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Junk Yard Dog wrote:I found the box my Russian 1950 SKS cam in back in the 90's, found it at the back of a storage container. I had thought I tossed it 20 years ago, and it seems I did, right into the back of the storage container.
Did they have canned Russian ammo fo sale when you got yours? The guy I got mine from has a can and seys it's Russian. The price is right.
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