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There seems to be a lot of the PW Arms import Tokarev TTCs around at this time. The one I picked up at the show was 1956 production, which must have been late in production. The pistol appears to be in new condition, other than the chicken**** safety added. Were these commonly refurbished or is it likely that it was unused stock? I see absolutely no wear on any parts.
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My Romanian TTC is dated 1953 and was imported by Century. I bought it from SOG in 2009, it did and still looks brand new. PW is really the only active importer at this time. Century is busy trying to sell off the stuff they got at the SAMCO bankruptcy sale. It may be old warehouse stock or they found a source outside of Russia that had some.
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My Polish TT33 (1952) was also imported by PW and I bought it in 2014 from AIM. At that time, they were selling both Polish and Romanian Tokarevs advertised as "refurbished" in a European factory which also installed the chicken.... safeties. Mine certainly looks that way as the bluing job is good and the parts all looked new with the exception of the barrel. The bore on my pistol is slightly worn and a bit dark, but still very shootable; I would call it good. The AIM ad did not specify the "European factory" where these were refinished. My TT33 is absolutely reliable and with good Sellier and Bellot factory ammo (as well as PPU) shoots accurately.
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tjtM38 wrote:My Polish TT33 (1952) was also imported by PW and I bought it in 2014 from AIM. At that time, they were selling both Polish and Romanian Tokarevs advertised as "refurbished" in a European factory which also installed the chicken.... safeties. Mine certainly looks that way as the bluing job is good and the parts all looked new with the exception of the barrel. The bore on my pistol is slightly worn and a bit dark, but still very shootable; I would call it good. The AIM ad did not specify the "European factory" where these were refinished. My TT33 is absolutely reliable and with good Sellier and Bellot factory ammo (as well as PPU) shoots accurately.
Sounds exactly like the one I picked up from AIM in 2015. I enjoy shooting mine. That reminds me, one of my magazines has a weak spring that I need to replace.
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Where does one buy affordable extra mags? Picked up a Romanian for $199. If I'm going to have to pay $30 a mag I'll just buy another gun
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spongemonkey wrote:J G Sales has some for $19.95.
Thank you will use them
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I just broke mine apart to clean before range time this week...purchased a week or so ago. A cugir pw import. My blue looks unissued however the barrel looks to have been used. Strange
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mproko wrote:I just broke mine apart to clean before range time this week...purchased a week or so ago. A cugir pw import. My blue looks unissued however the barrel looks to have been used. Strange
Most of these recent imports were refurbished/refinished and equipped with the stupid add-on safeties, probably so they could be legally imported (my good guess). My Polish TT33 is the same way; has a re-blued decent finish and all new looking parts, but the barrel is slightly dark with some mild erosion. I would call my barrel "good and serviceable." It shoots accurately and reliably. I don't use the safety.
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I took the safety out of both of my Romanians. They both reside in a baggie in my gun parts cabinet. If I ever pass them on, I will put them back in. They are such a sloppy piece of work I wouldn't trust them to be safe when I wanted safe or to shoot when I want to shoot. The Soviets had this strange notion that the safety on a firearm lies between the ears of the user. I concur.
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When you think about it, a lot of modern semi-auto pistols aren't equipped with safeties. This is why the US military ruled out the Glock 17/19 series as a service pistol, because it did not have a safety, other than the trigger safety. I own several handguns with no slide mounted safety including a Walther P99, KelTec P32, and Glock Models 19 and 42. The best safety is the shooter who should consider every firearm as loaded until the action is made safe and never put the finger on the trigger until the weapon is pointed at a legitimate target with the intent to fire and hit said target.
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I picked up a very nice 1953 example a while back and have been using it as a sort of "out in the sticks" gun ever since. It's run dirty, clean, rain or shine without a single hiccup, the bluing is a little worse for ware, but I suppose that is to be expected. I had originally settled on the TT solely because of the fantastic 7.62x25 cartridge (and because I considered the roller delayed blowback configuration of the CZ52 to be too complicated for an EDC gun) but it has impressed me outside of its chambering. All told; I consider the TT platform to be the second best com bloc handgun design, just behind the more accurate, simple as heck, Makarov.
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spongemonkey wrote:Found you an even better deal here for $14.99:

https://www.classicfirearms.com/tt-33-8 ... v-magazine
Maybe it was just my luck but I bought a couple of those that were junk. To be fair Classic refunded my money.
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I just ordered a Romanian Tokarev from AIM Surplus. Should get to my local gun dealer sometime late in the week or early next week, depending on how fast USPS is to my location. I will be interested in comparing it with my Polish TTC for condition and quality. These are really fun guns to shoot.

https://aimsurplus.com/romanian-tt-33-t ... x25-pistol
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tjtM38 wrote:I just ordered a Romanian Tokarev from AIM Surplus. Should get to my local gun dealer sometime late in the week or early next week, depending on how fast USPS is to my location. I will be interested in comparing it with my Polish TTC for condition and quality. These are really fun guns to shoot.

https://aimsurplus.com/romanian-tt-33-t ... x25-pistol
I looked hard at them this time around. I bought one from AIM in 2016 for $239.00 before shipping and still own it. Their price makes it dang tempting to buy another one.
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I have to admit, this Romanian TT-33 I just got from AIM Surplus is in much better shape than the Polish TTC I bought from them several years ago. I just finished a field strip and cleaning and everything looks new. The barrel bushing was tight, as if it had never been used. I would call the barrel excellent with no signs of corrosion or pitting. I don't think you could go wrong buying one of these for $219.95. I think Classic Firearms is selling them for the same price.
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That is a good price. These are likely to be like so many surplus guns. Once the wholesalers are done with them and the market dries up, they will gain in value simply because they are good guns. If I didn't already have three of them I would be ordering another.
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SA1911a1 wrote:That is a good price. These are likely to be like so many surplus guns. Once the wholesalers are done with them and the market dries up, they will gain in value simply because they are good guns. If I didn't already have three of them I would be ordering another.
I didn't need this one, but there is just too much eye candy out there. I now have three pistols in this caliber and not much ammo for them. For a while, I was shooting the CZ-52 a lot and now I have less than 400 rounds of PPU and S&B. The surplus ammo for these have just about dried up, but Classic Firearms has some Romanian from the 80's. Maybe I will look into that.
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Modern non corrosive is only a penny or two per round more expensive than what the surplus is going for.
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tjtM38 wrote:
SA1911a1 wrote:That is a good price. These are likely to be like so many surplus guns. Once the wholesalers are done with them and the market dries up, they will gain in value simply because they are good guns. If I didn't already have three of them I would be ordering another.
I didn't need this one, but there is just too much eye candy out there. I now have three pistols in this caliber and not much ammo for them. For a while, I was shooting the CZ-52 a lot and now I have less than 400 rounds of PPU and S&B. The surplus ammo for these have just about dried up, but Classic Firearms has some Romanian from the 80's. Maybe I will look into that.
Or just buy a 9MM barrel and shoot to your heart's content. You don't need to swap anything else.
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tjtM38 wrote:
SA1911a1 wrote:That is a good price. These are likely to be like so many surplus guns. Once the wholesalers are done with them and the market dries up, they will gain in value simply because they are good guns. If I didn't already have three of them I would be ordering another.
I didn't need this one, but there is just too much eye candy out there. I now have three pistols in this caliber and not much ammo for them. For a while, I was shooting the CZ-52 a lot and now I have less than 400 rounds of PPU and S&B. The surplus ammo for these have just about dried up, but Classic Firearms has some Romanian from the 80's. Maybe I will look into that.
You could hoard your 7.62 ammo and buy a 9MM barrel for the gun, and shoot to your heart's content.
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