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1944 ex-sniper

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shot my 1944 ex-sniper today, it amazes me every time I shoot it, it doesn,t matter if I shoot military surplus or soft point ammo it all shoots great, who needs a scope with a gun that shoots this great with open sights, have anyone else have a good shooting ex-sniper :D :thumbsup:
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I have an exsniper. Would it be wrong to put the PU scope back on?
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Nelson84 wrote:I have an exsniper. Would it be wrong to put the PU scope back on?
Yes. It is altering it from the way it left the arsenal. It is an ex for some reason.
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It doesn't help that for some reason, the scope and scope mount packaged together sells better than being packaged with the rifle it came on.
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I have a 1943 Tula ex sniper in great condition. The barrel is nice and shiny everywhere with strong rifling.
It shoots great. Very accurate and has a nice trigger pull.
I was tempted to turn it back into a sniper. But I bought a PU sniper instead.
I suggest you do that as well. You won't regret it :)

I'm very happy that I left my ex sniper as an ex sniper. It's fun to shoot 2" groups at 100m with it.
That's on a good day. I'm always between 2"-3" at 100m.

It has all matching numbers. Even the bayonet matches.
I pulled it from the crate myself :)

I also bought a 1937 91/30 from the same crate. It was just in too good of condition not to buy it.
This one shoots 3" at 100m on a good day.
It's not as accurate as my ex sniper.

I always shoot my group in five shots or more.
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The crate rifles are Soviet post WW2 refurbished and as part of that they force match each serial numbered part to match the barrel serial number. These are rifles that the Red Army fought WW2 with, they have varying degrees of wear in the bore, and on the crown, 4-6 MOA at 100 yards is average, some like this or that brand of ammo and can tighten up a bit. 1-2 MOA happens also, I had more than one refurb shoot 2 moa years back when I could actually still shoot worth a damn.
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Junk Yard Dog wrote:The crate rifles are Soviet post WW2 refurbished and as part of that they force match each serial numbered part to match the barrel serial number. These are rifles that the Red Army fought WW2 with, they have varying degrees of wear in the bore, and on the crown, 4-6 MOA at 100 yards is average, some like this or that brand of ammo and can tighten up a bit. 1-2 MOA happens also, I had more than one refurb shoot 2 moa years back when I could actually still shoot worth a damn.
I used to think that when the Mosin Nagant 91/30's were refurbished after WWII all of the parts were either matching or force matched. That doesn't seem to be correct. I pulled quite a few 91/30's out of the crate that did not have matching numbers. Most did not. I was assured that I was the first customer into that crate, and all the employee at Canadian Tire did was open the crate and remove one of the rifles on top for display.

My brother and I have eight Mosin Nagants. Each one shots and feels different. All vary in accuracy. I have shot them all many times. Most cannot do 2 moa. They all shoot well enough.
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I can only speak for what I have seen imported into the USA, Canadian importers sometimes have different sources for the rifles they get. I have never seen any Soviet refurb pulled from a crate without force matched numbers, sometimes stamped and sometimes engraved, but always there. I own near 100 myself both carbine and 91/30 refurb, all force matched. The mismatched ones tend to be the issued Finn, or Balkan imports that came in here 25 years back. Force matching like the red shellac or the black paint used to hide bluing sins are all hallmarks of the Soviet refurbished Mosin. This is not the first time I have heard of Mosin imports in Canada that differ from what we see here, like Hungarian 91/30 rifles, they were not imported to the USA yet Canadian collectors have told me about seeing them in Canada.
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