Coach gun

[Witchdoctor]

Hello all, SOG has a 12 and 20ga version of a coach shotgun but only shows retail prices, anyone here could tell me what dealer cost is on them so I can make sure my FFL dealer is being honest with me, thanks for any help.

[Longcolt44]

Let me get this straight. You want one of us with a licence to let you know what a dealer, that has paid for a federal license, rents a building, pays utility bills and pays taxes not to mention freight to let you know what another dealer pays for something? Is this a realistic question to ask? Different dealers pay different prices depending on their standing with different wholesalers.

[Longcolt44]

In all seriousness, the prices you see on SOG's webpages are the cost prices most dealers pay. What they add to it varies on the dealer.

[Junk Yard Dog]

I have a 12 gauge New Empire hammerless sidelock double barrel coach gun made by Crescent around 1895-1900 with steel ( not Damascus twist) barrels. It's still being used for it's intended purpose, defense, close and personal kind. A grand wouldn't pry that away from me, two grand wouldn't do it either, I have not been impressed by the modern offerings in this category. In the old days the gun makers understood that this weapon had one purpose and it wasn't duck hunting or killing paper. I hold that double right up there with my Winchester '97 trench gun ( the real thing)

[Witchdoctor]

I thought I may get a response like that L.C. but no offense was intended wouldn't have asked unless I thought this wasn't a forum where everyone was helping each other but I still understand the statement so I withdraw my question, I'll just have to wait till my C&R gets here which I've sent paperwork in on already...and JYD thanks, yes I would much rather have an original if I could find one I was willing to pay for that's in good enough condition, I do appreciate the original intent and history of the weapon and was getting what I could to fit the bill for now cause I like them for what they were designed for.

[Junk Yard Dog]

For defensive purposes I would not recommend a coach double. I have 35 years of practice with mine and I use it as a hideout weapon to be produced only under the most dire need. There are many fine pump action shotguns that will be easier to use and master than the double. You could buy two or three Mossberg 500's for what one new or used coach gun goes for, the Mossberg 500 is versatile and user friendly. Barrels swap easily, many stock options, various accessory's both the useful kind and the Mall Ninja junk. Coach guns are mostly sought after by Cowboy action shooters, living history guys, they are not a good bird gun, and not something easily mastered by everyone in the family. Short barrel 12 gauges are hard to control for people who do not have a lifetime of experience handling such weapons, accuracy is limited, slow to reload without a large amount of practice, and lack the sound of a pump actions slide being worked. That sound is universally accepted as the last sound the bad guy will hear before most of his body gets blown all over the wall.

[Witchdoctor]

Makes sense, I have in fact considered both it was a little of the nostalgia factor that swayed me towards the coach, have looked at the moss berg and a few others the are all under $200 new, however I did think the 20ga was going to be my choice due to recoil especially if my wife were to have the need to use it.

[Junk Yard Dog]

One of my Mossberg's is a 20, they are the same size and weight as the 12, only the 410 model is significantly smaller and lighter.