M1 Garand with a different type stock

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M1 Garand with a different type stock

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Has anyone ever seen this style stock on a M1 before ? Kind of gives it a carbine look...
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It looks like someone out a Garand in what is known as a, Tanker M1", stock. They never really made a tanker model and most are in 7.62X51 caliber.
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Standard action and barrel length with a "Tanker" stock on it, for whatever reason.
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Aftermarket bullshit stock, fortunately it's not difficult to acquire the correct stock set for the M1 rifle either surplus or new made.
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Junk Yard Dog wrote:Aftermarket bullshit stock, fortunately it's not difficult to acquire the correct stock set for the M1 rifle either surplus or new made.
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Ugghhh, sporter. On the plus side, bubba can't go cutting down the barrel on a Garand without a lot of work so a nice replacement walnut stock for $150 from the CMP and a little bit of fitting will have her right back in action as JG and Uncle Sam intended.

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Jbob, where is this rifle? It looks like it is in a display, or museum? I don't know what the story is but it looks like there is info beside the rifle, but can't read it of course.
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Some of you guys are gonna have egg on your faces when you find out something about this one! Hahahaha! Bill
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I've found I learn something new everyday, enlighten me please?

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Something to do with Patton?....... ;mywink;
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Okay, My two cents..The tanker had a small forward piece of wood for a grip.Not on this model.....This rifle has a special made piece of "Blued" steel to hold the barrel to the fore-end..plus the gas cylinder is painted black, ahla, WW2 ..Not many Garands were ever blued, perhaps Parade models..Me thinks I have looked at this rifle in a museum, maybe FT. knox..or could have been Ft. Benning..Anyway fire up the grille..would love to see some closer pix of the details..
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Specials and one off's are unlikely as Uncle tends to hold on to these, I saw them recently at the national armory museum ( got the T-Shirt) . I know they are searching for some missing rifles, it was a slow day so the ranger had time to chat, they have a list, I don't recall all of it. I know service rifles not specials and experiments, if this is one of them that would be nice but would not have attracted my interest back in the day. I have Hatcher's book out and I am not seeing this in it.
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If this were a contest Dolk would probably have won.
This M1 Garand belongs to General George Patton and is on display at the VMI at Lexington, Va.
Guess maybe he was a bubba back around 80 years ago.... :D
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Sorry, didn't get any of the details about the rifle in the write up in the picture. I stop by there usually twice a year so next time I'll bring my glasses along and do more reading about it's history.
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Well, the good general certainly didnt waste anytime wrecking this one. He owned it maybe 4 years? 4 years without alot of real down time, there being a war on and all. But still.... there was time... for this!? lol. I kid, but I do find it amusing. At least from what I recall he left his k98k pretty minty (patton museum, ft.knox)

Isnt the diagonal cut on the op rod a winchester feature?


Who are we kidding, like HE actually did this himself!!! Assistant Armorer Cpl. Bubba reporting Sir!
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Kind of makes you wonder why doesn't it, slightly lighter maybe...
If anyone has a chance to stop by the VMI they've changed the museum around and the whole downstairs has been saved for weapons of all types.
Some of the stuff shown in the air and revolver type rifles I never knew existed. There's also a good collection of British and American WWI and II weapons to enjoy also.
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Type99 wrote:Well, the good general certainly didnt waste anytime wrecking this one. He owned it maybe 4 years? 4 years without alot of real down time, there being a war on and all. But still.... there was time... for this!? lol. I kid, but I do find it amusing. At least from what I recall he left his k98k pretty minty (patton museum, ft.knox)

Isnt the diagonal cut on the op rod a winchester feature?


Who are we kidding, like HE actually did this himself!!! Assistant Armorer Cpl. Bubba reporting Sir!

Exactly. Likely the General never received it in the first place. Who knows & honestly, does it matter.

Egg on the face Bill? Right... :roll:

If one of us decided to create that today we would be branded with a name that starts with a "B".

Likely someone was bored at the factory & was looking for something to do. A whimsical activity at best & display case filler...
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How often and freely we apply the Term Bubba to rifles that maybe are changed by people who have maybe given their lives for us? Or taken what they have been given and made it work as something it was not designed to be used as and in that way put food on the table or made it possible for an aging leader to carry protection that he might do his job and keep us maybe being born as free men. Think about it this way that rifle gave its wonderful stock condition and design that maybe General Patton could do his job better and carry it easier. That rifle by its much modified condition may have enabled Patton to carry it easier on his Jeep and handle it to defend himself better too. If I had been his Armory Sgt. and he asked for something like that I would not have thought twice to try and accommodate him. Keeping that man alive may have helped us greatly to win the 2nd World War, the Germans sure thought so along with just about any tanker in the service today.

Bubba is a slang term and for sure doesn't add any esteem to someone it is applied to today so maybe we ought to think twice about where we use it and how we use it. Many times and in this case I would say history changed that rifle to protect a very important man! Indeed if he had not survived as long as he had maybe the battle of the Bulge would not have had the same result? We might all be speaking German today and Hitler's madness might have been an excepted trait of a man history today brands as a madman. Just that little piece of stock missing and the added blued metal may have kept Hitler's nemesis George Patton alive for history to judge them both. Many times I find modified weapons that I wonder when they were changed around and we often judge harshly on our forums maybe not knowing for sure when or why these modifications came about. So I guess what I am saying is think awhile before you yell Bubba how could you do that! Never know for real 100% surety what you are looking at do you? Think if you found that rifle in a Flea Market what your reaction would be. Would you buy it? Not for a price too high I would bet! That is how you end up with egg on your face Rongo and Type99. If there is anybody on this earth that is more experienced at doing that than me I would say I would dispute their claim! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I am trainable though and try to learn from my mistakes. Well maybe most of the time?

So let's see we are calling General Patton or some of his staff a Bubba, right? General Kelly of the Marine Corps had a lightened BAR I understand would he fit in there too? Haha! I think I am just going to enjoy my next trip to VMI's museum much more than last time! :lol: Bill
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Here is some egg Bill, how can this rifle be in two places at the same time.? Winchester chromed the original one and Patton died before it was presented. https://www.americanrifleman.org/articl ... -m1-garand
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Awwww were we micro aggressing too much. Seriously, regardless of its history, I dont like it and wouldnt buy it, thats some history some else can enjoy. Im all about the vets doing what they want with their rifles, I actually helped my grandfather bubba the heck out a good number things when I was a wee lad. Fortunately no rifles, but only because hed already done that decades before. Among the greatest generation were in fact the OG Bubbas. They sanded and lacquered, wire brushed and painted everything in sight and took great pride in it too. I bear bubba no particular ill will, a man is free to wreck whatever is his and every rifle he wrecks makes every nice one found that much more dear. No need to hate Bubba hes just part of the natural order of the universe..... and worth making jokes over. YMMV
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