Needed, expert eyes and opinions on 1909 Sestroryetsk

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Needed, expert eyes and opinions on 1909 Sestroryetsk

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I know it is not a perfect speciman especially with the mismatch numbers. My top dollar was $375 in my head but I just couldn't see $15 stopping me. I really wanted a pre 1900's but have not seen one as of late. It appears there are some very bright lights above the rifle due to the dark shadows, so I am hoping the stock just looks lighter/shinier than it really is. It fills a hole in the collection. All opinions appreciated!!!!

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Nice score :thumbsup: I think the stock looks good, just a little shine from the lights. Looks like it missed the Finn scrubber also, and I like that splice up front. Congrats
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You would think by now I would be more confident in my purchases but I'm just like "Chicken Little" :lol:. After being burned a couple of times I get real leary of online purchases.
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Looks to be a typical early 1990's import Finn M91, these stocks tend to have that look from 3000 wipe downs with Finn wax while the rifle was in service.
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Looks like a nice purchase! Congratulations.
The stock got my attention, because it appears to be a Romanian sliced stock. That's kind of odd to see on a Finnish captured rifle, but I've never seen a Finnish stock spliced up at the fore-end like that. There might be a little more history in that rifle than you thought! :)
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I like it! :thumbsup: :Drool1: :thumbsup:
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cj1964 wrote:The stock got my attention, because it appears to be a Romanian sliced stock. That's kind of odd to see on a Finnish captured rifle, but I've never seen a Finnish stock spliced up at the fore-end like that.

+1, nice rifle but looks a lot like a Romanian stock splice, :vconfused: aren't these splices mostly found on post war Romanian repaired rifles.
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I have a 1909 Sestroryetsk, but its in a Finnish capture in a Finnish stock.
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I frankly believe everyone calls those Romanian repair splices wrongly as I have many rifles and seen many rifles that had no Romanian ties and were spliced like that. A splice like that will hold up better than a butt to butt splice on a stock when the rifle is fired and most gunsmiths who do wood work and are knowledgeable have told me that is a well know fact for many years in the past.

You Folks will have to forgive me if I am wrong in this comment as I have had a 3 day weekend covering many miles in the car so I am a bit groggy :oops: Did anyone notice that little relief to the rear of the second barrel band parallel to the cleaning rod cut on the bottom of the stock? Am I going crazy or it that something new to me and others? Comments Please?

I had a stopping price for any sort of normal to me M91 lately and that is no higher than $400 and that seems to work for me. So I would say the price was OK for todays standards. Any time now JYd is going to tell me I have finally gone the rest of the way to senility with my pricing restrictions but it is what it is I am afraid. Frankly I would agree with him pricewise but these days new collectors have upped the anti quite a bit. Saw a guy spend $700 for a Mitchells Mausers PU sniper over the weekend and he had no idea it was a fake. When people like that are around they tend to blow things way out of proportion I am afraid.

You wanted it, you set a limit and reasoned what you bid so why not? Oh by the way photographing anything on a red blanket is bound to bend the light spectrum crazily so don't fret till you get it. Bill
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Dang, Zeebill is that you with photography tips? I'll be right back, I gotta go see if hell just froze over! Bwah ha ha :P
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bunkysdad wrote:Dang, Zeebill is that you with photography tips? I'll be right back, I gotta go see if hell just froze over! Bwah ha ha :P
:chuckles: :chuckles: How true! I'd love to see photos of all the rifles Zeebill has told us about!
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bunkysdad wrote:Dang, Zeebill is that you with photography tips? I'll be right back, I gotta go see if hell just froze over! Bwah ha ha :P

You know that is the sad thing about me and photography in that I actually took many college level courses in it and TV production and considered changing jobs to that career field at one time! I would have starved to death! I absolutely suck at it!! But strangely I do remember something about back round colors and red was a no-no. Believe it or not grey was the best color to use as it was a neutral color. So maybe the immortal Grey blanket is not such a bad idea? Bill :lol:
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That must be true about gray. It send to work well.
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Looks really nice :thumbsup: I like it. Judi and her Mosin's ;mywink;
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Have to say for myself, it is the first time I have seen the Romanian Splice on a Finn rifle.

Not only is it a Romanian splice, the stock is entirely Romanian produced. Check the offset grasping groove design.

http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinRareRomStock.htm

Not that it would prevent me from placing this in my collection, but the action and furniture were mated here in the States.
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I have my nose to the screen and still can't see a splice, need better pictures with clear closeups that aren't dark and blurry. Better yet, just send me the rifle so I can examine it .
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