1928 Izhevsk MO marked

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1928 Izhevsk MO marked

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"1928 Izhevsk mosin MO marked second date is 53 these are hard to come by and I've only seen 3 the stock is pre war all matching except floor plate asking $220 shipped"

The above description appears in a Canadian forum and the firearm is available to me locally.

Becasue of the date and the arsenal, I've been on 7.62x54r.net and found this...

"A. A Dragoon is a version of the M91 that is the same length as an M91/30, but has the M91 type sights and a unique handguard. This model was phased out in the early 1930s and replaced by the M91/30. An updated Dragoon has the sights and handguard replaced with the M91/30 types. It is basically an M91/30 in that configuration, but because it is dated pre-1930 it is often referred to as an ex-Dragoon or updated Dragoon by US collectors. While certainly not as rare as a Dragoon in original configuration they are less common than post 1930 M91/30s and sought after by many collectors."

Price sounds reasonable and it would be nice to have a Dragoon.

What say you ?? Should I get this ??

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I would consider it & $220 shipped is not a horrible price. A little bummed it's in a "Post-War" stock though. Pressed in escutcheons are a dead giveaway... Maybe offer $200 shipped?
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'Agree with Rongo.

It's an ex-Dragoon. I like these, for no rational reason. I have some MO marked rifles. That's never been a big draw for me, but it's nice to have one in your collection.

Is the rifle worth $200-220 to you?
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djbuck1 wrote:It's an ex-Dragoon. I like these, for no rational reason. I have some MO marked rifles. That's never been a big draw for me, but it's nice to have one in your collection.
Thx for confirming it's an ex-Dragoon, that's interesting to me.
djbuck1 wrote:Is the rifle worth $200-220 to you?
Well, since it's local to me the guy is willing to knock it down to $190 which is what they are now going for across Canada. THe bonus here is that I don't have to pay federal and provincial taxes.
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It's interesting that the MO has been struck through. Thats the second one i've seen like that in two days. Does that make it an ex-MO ex-dragoon? :D
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racerguy00 wrote:It's interesting that the MO has been struck through. Thats the second one i've seen like that in two days. Does that make it an ex-MO ex-dragoon? :D
Ya, I found that curious... so definitely an ex-MO ex-dragoon !! :chuckles:
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What would you think of this one then... I think it's a 21/44 but who's to know :D It's got an identity crisis though - 95 Tula receiver :shock:
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190.00 sounds good. It looks good too. You should have a nice one if you buy it.
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:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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Well, I picked it up today... and I'll post pics ASAP. At first acquaintance it looks great.

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As promised...

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Weird shim ??
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Tang says it all.
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Usual bizarre markings
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What's with the "Double O" ??
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What with the 2 ??
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:vcool: :vcool: :vcool:
That's the first receiver date that I have ever seen that was indented like that. Very cool!
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qz2026 wrote::vcool: :vcool: :vcool:
That's the first receiver date that I have ever seen that was indented like that. Very cool!
Ditto. Very cool!

OP - the 00 I believe is the proof mark used during that era.
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Re: 1928 Izhevsk MO marked

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Nice rifle!
The double zero is an accuracy proof. The shim is there to provide proper spacing for the magazine, and so the action screws can achieve proper tension. I rarely see them in Russian refurbs, but my laminate 1929 has magazine shims.

The number 2 on the stock is likely a rack number. My M38 has a 2 in the same spot and font.
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
1944 VKT M39
1944 Izhevsk 91/30 PU sniper
1968 No maker M39

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If that 2 is a rack number then rack #2 must have been sagging from all the rifles. [emoji2]
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Re: 1928 Izhevsk MO marked

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81turbota wrote:Nice rifle!
The double zero is an accuracy proof. The shim is there to provide proper spacing for the magazine, and so the action screws can achieve proper tension. I rarely see them in Russian refurbs, but my laminate 1929 has magazine shims.

The number 2 on the stock is likely a rack number. My M38 has a 2 in the same spot and font.
The 00 means you found my rifle, thanks! :D

The #2 is on a LOT of refurb stocks. Probably in inspection or maker's mark of some kind.
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You guys are right on the 2, it didn't cross my mind that we don't see other numbers there often.

Either way, I got one out of two! :)
1898 Tula M91 - SA
1929 Tula 91/30 - MO/53
1931 Tula 91/30
1934 Tikka M27
1940 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M38
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Re: 1928 Izhevsk MO marked

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Very nice rifle! :thumbsup:
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