54 Izhevsk Original on Gun Brokers

[OLD OUTLAW]

Look at this! http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... =266347084

This is what happens when you get three idiots with high Testosterone bidding against each other. Seems that 53 Izhevsk only went
for $1350 as I seem to recall. This $1380 is just way out there in Space Cadet land.
I give up on people like them.

[Rongo]

That is insane!!!!

[OLD OUTLAW]

Totally uneducated on rifles. I just wonder what those last three boys were a smoking in those little pipes of theirs.

[Junk Yard Dog]

**** me! Contract murders have been done for less, dam, that seller is opening the bubbly tonight !

That's easy Meth, burns the brain cells out even faster than crack, just ask Mr White.

[MN Fan]

What the hell? $1,400?

You've got some schoolin' to do to them boys Outlaw!

[Rongo]

Problem is... Once that price happens it sets the bar for the next one. It may not go for as much, but it does incrementally go higher.

[OLD OUTLAW]

What the hell? $1,400?

You've got some schoolin' to do to them boys Outlaw!

Oh yes, if that buyer or any of those other bidders belong to a forum I that I do, you can bet on it.
Wood Shed schooling so to speak and keep every thing nice and clean. That dirty @$^()_&^%$#$%^**.

[martin08]

The rifles of this ilk don't come much nicer than that. It was worth a premium of up to $200 over an average to good 1954 Izhevsk. That said, an average to good 1954 Izhevsk should usually sell for $7-800. So the buyer paid a premium premium (read: double premium! ) of $4-500. Yet, he owns the gun, and I do not!

[Woodbeef]

Stock looks humped to me. Izhevsk symbol is sanded,date and serial number look to be hand drawn.

[martin08]

Stock looks humped to me. Izhevsk symbol is sanded,date and serial number look to be hand drawn.

I guess that I don't see it? The font and size are the same as mine, though not struck nearly as deep.

(please pardon my old amateur photography skills!)

[Woodbeef]

Your's looks real. Download them both into your pictures folder,rotate them then look at them. You'll see what I mean.

[martin08]

Still not seeing it. Fonts look identical in size and shape, to me. I see the shellac brush strokes, but no sanding marks crossing through the wood grain. The 5 does have the appearance of being struck with the die angled slightly to the right.

But that's just me.

[MN Fan]

I hope you all don't mind that I played with this a bit. I am trying to learn here

I thought the auction stock looked hand "etched" as well. So, I got out my forensic hat and decided to find out.

First, here are the two date stamps resized, rotated and washed out so they are similar:



And here is the auction stamp reduced to 60% opacity and placed on top of martin's stamp:



Even zooming in, I felt that they were different stamps...until I placed them on top of each other.

[Rongo]

Looks like we have a Sherlock Holmes on our hands...

[MN Fan]

Nope, just a sleep deprived Engineer on his artistic young daughter's laptop

It's too late to buy anything, so I thought I'd try to learn something

[OLD OUTLAW]

Nope, just a sleep deprived Engineer on his artistic young daughter's laptop

It's too late to buy anything, so I thought I'd try to learn something

Say Good Night Sherlock!

[martin08]

I hope you all don't mind that I played with this a bit. I am trying to learn here

I thought the auction stock looked hand "etched" as well. So, I got out my forensic hat and decided to find out.

First, here are the two date stamps resized, rotated and washed out so they are similar:



And here is the auction stamp reduced to 60% opacity and placed on top of martin's stamp:



Even zooming in, I felt that they were different stamps...until I placed them on top of each other.

Well, I'll be...

That is far more technical than I'd ever be able to perform. I was relying on my eye to compare individual font shapes, and could not find any inconsistencies. But I think your little experiment took it to a whole different level!

[pacanis]

I had this rifle on my watch list, just to see how the bidding went. It was 700 bucks a couple nights ago
Holy Crap.

Good job on the detective work, Cliff. You've got a real eye for detail and the computer skills to back it up

[Bareassmeagain]

Thats two 1300 dollar Izhevsk's in as many weeks.

[redspoon]

Sweeet MNFan, I thinks you opened up a can of bluegill bait. Hope you don't mind me bugging you for any future questions on mosin marks.