mis matched parts

[craigf1974]

I hope this is not a completly stupid question here. I have a 1941 izhevsk 91/30, the rear barrel band and the ejector spring have the Tula star on them. Would I be wrong to change them to the correct parts to match the rifle or leave them alone since that's the way it was redone at the arsenal? I am new to the Mosin and do not want to do anything to ruin it.

[millman]

Just leave them. That is normal.

[gbeecher65]

My '33 Tula has force-matched magazine, tula & ishevsk marks on bolt and ishevsk barrel bands. A typical arsenal refurbished Mosin!

[WeldonHunter]

This will give you an idea why refurbished Mosin Nagants are the way they are. http://www.russian-mosin-nagant-forum.c ... index.html

This is down the page:

"How it was done. The majority of the Mosin rifles were completely stripped down and each part separated by type. All the barrel bands, band springs, muzzle caps, cleaning rods, bayonets, rear sight pieces, bolt pieces (broke down bolts to basic parts), magazine parts, butt plates, stocks and so on were all separated , cleaned, and refinished. Then the parts were used to reassemble rifles. Serialized parts could have force matched numbers with either electro pencil or stamped in. This would have been done during or just after assembly. So you end up with a rifle with mixed parts and forced matched serial numbers. This is the vast majority of the rifles being sold today."

[craigf1974]

Thank you for your thoughts, I will leave it as is.

[gurn]

Welcome to the club and how about some pics? You don't get the special membership pack without pics.

[Gsragtop]

I have a question when it comes to this, that I have not been able to figure out.. I get the whole referb process, but were the parts always force matched (bolt, but, and mag door to the barrel)?? I ask because I know many fresh out of the crate rifles don't match. So if they did not do every one, was there any rime or reason to when they did it or did not do it??

I guess I'm asking why there are non matching rifles after referb ??

[outdooraddict]

I've got a '42 Izhevsk, came with an Izhevsk bolt connector that was cracked. When my new connector came in I was happy to see it was a Tula, apparently not war time since the finish is very nice. So now I've got a Tula bolt. Kind of neat if you ask me. Now I'm itching for more Mosins

[WeldonHunter]

I have a question when it comes to this, that I have not been able to figure out.. I get the whole referb process, but were the parts always force matched (bolt, but, and mag door to the barrel)?? I ask because I know many fresh out of the crate rifles don't match. So if they did not do every one, was there any rime or reason to when they did it or did not do it??

I guess I'm asking why there are non matching rifles after referb ??

I'm sure some might have slipped through or had parts replaced that missed being matched for whatever reason. Also you say fresh out of the crate but these rifles are not really fresh out of the crate so to speak. The importer as far as I know has to pull them to log them and stamp them to meet ATF requirements. The retailer also has to log each rifle so these rifles even in crates have been in other hands before you and the retailer get them. No telling what happened to them between that. As a general rule though all the parts were force match one way or the other because the rifles are built from many rifles and in large numbers so keeping the parts together was not as efficient as simply renumbering them to the barrel.

[craigf1974]

This is a pic of my Mosin when I first brought it home. I have since taken it completely down and cleaned all the cosmoline. Very nice bore on it, no rust at all, wood is very good with a few nics and scratches. There is a little bit of the shellac that has come off at the very front of the stock and around the receiver but its still a very beautiful rifle. Very nice shooting rifle, this is my first Mosin but will definitely not be my last.

[Junk Yard Dog]