1933 Tula Hex Laminate @ my LGS

[kwillindy]

This is at my LGS. Round Receivers are $150, Hex are $180, this Laminate is $230. Is it worth it? Neat stock with crossbolt. Some interesting marks along with the date/serial # stamp. Anyone know something about the other stampings/marks, or just more of the unknowns?
Pre-war stock with complete metal sling slots.

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[desdem12]

I have a 33 Tula laminate. I think every one needs one

[Junk Yard Dog]

I can see it's a 1933 Tula Hex receiver in a laminated stock. Laminated stocks were put on just about anything during the post WW2 refurb.

[kwillindy]

Thanks, guys. So, was I mistaken in calling it a pre-war stock? Junk Yard Dog mentions the post-WWII refurb. I am admittedly new at this, and thought that if the sling slots were all metal, that it was a pre-war stock.
So, is a Laminate Hex necessarily worth $80 more than a round receiver, and $50 more than the other Hex receivers? This one has no accessories, no sling, bayonet, pouches, or can. Their other non-laminates include all accesories.
I wouldn't mind owning another 91/30, but I don't want to get taken just "cuz she's real purty". I've played that game with women and lost too many times!

[desdem12]

I do not think it is worth 80 bucks more.I do like the older rifles but they are basicly the same thing and all work about the same. It is likely an post war stock replacement during refurb in the 70s or after the war. If you wait long enough you will come across a better deal maybe. I know I didn't pay that but then it was around 5 years ago I bought one, the only laminate I have in fact.

[davesstuff1]

[bunkysdad]

If it is a pre-war stock there will be small screws holding the metal escutcheons in place on the sling slots. It must be priced higher because they paid more for it. If it came in with the others then it too would include the accessories. Personally unless you are putting together a collection by years, I would pay the lower price and get the hex in the hardwood stock, if they have one that you like, or unless you really like the laminate more. But I would not say that a face to face purchase at 230.00 is a bad deal. It sounds fair in today's market and those red laminates are nice.

[catcracker]

Sounds a bit high to me. On the other hand, I have been known to pay a little more for those rifles that speak to me. But they usually have something that sticks out from the others.
Here is a site that has a list of prices of current online deals. It may give you a better idea of pricing.
http://gun-deals.com/index.php?dealtype ... 4&subcat=5
Be aware that some of the sales listed are for MOLOT rifles. For some collectors, being a MOLOT rifle is not a factor. For others, it is.
Hope that helps.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Laminated stocks were introduced in the late war period, and many were used during the post WW2 refurbishment process as replacement stocks. Your rifle was one of millions of weapons the USSR refurbished in the years after WW2 1940's-1970's, that were then stashed away for future wars that never came to be. A huge lot of these weapons ( but not nearly all of them) were stored in the former Soviet republic of Ukraine. After gaining independence from the USSR the Ukrainians began selling off this huge hoard of obsolete Soviet weaponry on the world surplus market. Unless your rifle is a Russian Mollot import then it's going to be one of the Ukrainian ones that are still by far the most commonly encountered versions.

[zeebill]

I see $230 being far too much for a refurb on a laminated stock or not. Just too many of them around to warrant paying that much money for one. People buy them and wonder why when they go to sell them they can't get their money back with the prime reason being they paid too much in the first place. Pricing at a gun shop usually reflects what they have learned sells at certain prices and not what they paid for them. Do you really think Big 5 and places like Dunham's paid more for the laminated stocks? Like as not some big mouthed collector said he would pay more for a hex or laminate and presto they now charge more. Just like the gun cases that now are priced as high as $150 at some places somebody opened their mouth the seller changed prices accordingly. Bill

[bunkysdad]

I know that Bill but it would explain why it comes with nothing when all their other rifles have a full compliment of accessories. Maybe they didn't pay more, but I bet they bought it separate from the rest, and likely did pay a bit more.

[zeebill]

I have a friend who is in management at Dunham's and he has told me all the stuff for accoutrements comes with every rifle from CAI and they are right in the box. Many places do not put them out but sell the rifles alone. I will not expound anymore on what happens to the stuff but I am sure you can kind of figure it out. It is carried on their logs as merely a rifle by the way. Use you imagination and I am sure you can come up with some logical answers. My supplier of accoutrements buys from a quote another store that doesn't sell them with the rifles nor does he I might add. Bill

[Junk Yard Dog]

I was lucky, all my refurbs came with the extras, sometimes extra extras, only the Balkan rifles didn't.

[zeebill]

I was lucky, all my refurbs came with the extras, sometimes extra extras, only the Balkan rifles didn't.

Yepper that is the way the most of them came years ago and then greed of the sellers made them separate them and try to make more money out of them. Or the inevitable was a buyer offered more for the accoutrements and bingo the sellers found a bigger profit margin. Bill