Looks like Classic sold out of crates

[BenedictGomez]

$150 each is about as little as they seem to be going for.They should be worth at least what you paid, maybe just not a lot more unless they were something special.

Here's the thing I was commenting on in my prior post about the general inability to foresee a different circumstance from that which we're in the moment of.

Why do you say the above? In the preponderance of human history, the MG rifle hasnt sold for $150, other than, well, RIGHT NOW. This EXACT moment in time.

So why are you so certain that they'll never recede in price from here? And I'm not criticizing you in the least, it's just that your post dovetailed onto mine almost perfectly. History might prove you to be 100% correct, and at the MOMENT, almost everyone believes this to be so. Or......it might not be.

[Junk Yard Dog]

While it is true that in the 90's a 91/30 Finn capture could be had for around $45, that is over todays money. That sounds cheap, but keep in mind that they were selling in a market were a US M1 Garand could be had for $200 ( $315.24 in todays money). The Milsurp market was crowded with US milsurps, Turk Mauser's , Enfields from India, South Africa, Turkey, UK, Australia, and Canada, French Mas of various type, and so on. Now the Mosin is very nearly alone and has attracted a great deal more attention especially as their history has become better known. The Mosins price has been trending steadily upward as supply dwindles and demand increases. There are an estimated 80 million gun owners in the US, because many gun owners tend to be close mouthed about it I suspect that number is closer to 100 million. Say only two million of them would ever consider owning a milsurp, and only half of them would want a Mosin, that is still a million rifles, more Mosins than have been imported into the US from every country since the end of WW2.

They made millions of them, however war and time have taken their toll, then there is also the fact that we share these Mosin hoards with the entire world, the US does not have a lock on all Mosin's being sold from Russia, and Ukraine. I don't expect to see a $500 M91/30 refurb next year, or even in a couple of years, but I do expect to one day see it. As it is the carbines are more than halfway there now.

[m1guy]

Wow. Less than a million of them have been imported? That surprises me. I had no clue how many had been brought in, but I would have guessed more than that.

I'll admit that my ability to predict money makers is more often wrong than not. Every time I see something and think "Who would ever want that?" somebody gets rich from it. But if I'm thinking "I wish I had invented that" it flops.

But I just figure the trend of most milsurps and antiques in general is to go up. There were $250 M1s laying around in the early 90s, but not now. I wouldn't be surprised if Mosins leveled out a lot, but I personally doubt if they will really drop. We would either need to find a huge new supply, or people would need to stop having any demand for them. And they are definitely not making any more antique Mosins. But, I think they are seeing a spike in prices now. I think they might take the next 5 years to go up as much as they have in the past 6 or 8 months.

[Junk Yard Dog]

If you were paying $250 for a Garand in 1992 you weren't looking in the right place, I picked up a nice one for as little as $175 that year, I didn't pay over $250 until my third or fourth one, by then I was looking for the harder to find ones from Winchester, H&R, and IHC. That was a fun time never to be seen again, as much as people bitched about Bush the elder screwing us over , or later Billy Clinton and his bullshit it was a great time to be a milsurp collector. In many ways a lot more fun a time than today. Now it seems to be mostly about money, most of the guys here will never get to own a Garand, or if they do it will cost them five times what we paid. They will never know what it was like to hit a flea market with $600 and walk out carrying 20 milsurps of assorted type. A time when it wasn't about buying a crate of ammo, but how much of it you could load into the trunk of the car before the springs would bottom out.

[srv1]

I would love to have crate of Mosins and put them away for 20 years still with the cosmoline. Who else says crates of Mosin's?

James

[Longcolt44]

I don't get the buying of crates of Mosins or buying them just for the sake of hoping they will be more valuable in a few years. As a collector I search for particular years or types to add to the collection. Buying a crate of Mosins is just like sending your money to some broker in hopes whatever he does makes a profit. There is no skill or any knowledge needed to buy a crate of the unknown. Buying a crate is not collecting, it is just buying a box with some rifles in it, no skill needed. Also for the 2159th time, the Russians did not use cosmoline, they used a thick grease. The US used cosmoline.

[MarksmanTim]

I don't get the buying of crates of Mosins or buying them just for the sake of hoping they will be more valuable in a few years. As a collector I search for particular years or types to add to the collection. Buying a crate of Mosins is just like sending your money to some broker in hopes whatever he does makes a profit. There is no skill or any knowledge needed to buy a crate of the unknown. Buying a crate is not collecting, it is just buying a box with some rifles in it, no skill needed. Also for the 2159th time, the Russians did not use cosmoline, they used a thick grease. The US used cosmoline.

THIS

JYD should make a sticky!

[Rongo]

I don't get the buying of crates of Mosins or buying them just for the sake of hoping they will be more valuable in a few years. As a collector I search for particular years or types to add to the collection. Buying a crate of Mosins is just like sending your money to some broker in hopes whatever he does makes a profit. There is no skill or any knowledge needed to buy a crate of the unknown. Buying a crate is not collecting, it is just buying a box with some rifles in it, no skill needed. Also for the 2159th time, the Russians did not use cosmoline, they used a thick grease. The US used cosmoline.

Now that pretty much sums it all up.