Dreyse needle gun - I need help

[collection]

I have a chance to buy this rifle - Dreyse needle gun.
rifle is in original condition? or is mixed from another gun? I do not like the front collar.

I do not know the most about what model of rifle is it?

is it any later update?

Thank you for any help.

vladimir.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Wow, nice! I can see right off that the bolt serial is a mismatch, not uncommon to see that in rifles this old that have seen much use. It looks correct, the bands have been polished but brass tarnishes in a few years, they will return to dull soon enough. The needle seems to be missing, or broken, or I just can't see it.

These are not commonly encountered rifles, and this one looks presentable, even the bore is in good condition. I can't help you with price as I haven't been tracking any, they don't show up for sale to often. I would think $500 and up.

[ponycarman]

That is super nice looking! Very cool and interesting rifle

[Celt]

That's a new one on me.....
Looks real good though.
Neat rifle

[Junk Yard Dog]

This was a ground breaking rifle in it's day.

[Celt]

I'll have to use my google fu on it.

[Junk Yard Dog]

It's there.

[ponycarman]

It was ground breaking. But it had a specific flaw with the rifle and cartrige design. But it paved the road for modern stuff. Was this what the russian military used up until the m91 was invented?

[racerguy00]

The one just prior to the m91 was the Berdan II rifle. Invented by an american. Russia had a close relationship with US armsmakers during the last part of the imperial era.

[ponycarman]

Ahh yes I remember reading that now. I couldn't remember if there was another one wedged in there.

[Brian the Brit]

Nice Rifle

[desdem12]

SWEEEETTT

[BubbaDX]

That is pretty cool.

[Junk Yard Dog]

Used by the Germans during the Franco Prussian War 1870-71

[tjtM38]

That is a great find and a very historic rifle. I assume it is for show and not for shoot. Anyway, you couldn't find any cartridges for it even if you wanted to. It is my understanding that the soldiers carried spare needles with them in the field to replace when the pin broke, wore out, corroded, etc. The pin had to penetrate the paper cartridge all the way to the base if the bullet to contact the priming compound. Buy that rifle if the price is not ridiculous.

[collection]

Thank you all for your help.
Today's auction ended. final price is € 1051.
I did not buy it. I think it's a high price for its condition.

classification rifles:
Wüerttemberg Modell 1857/67

k&c marking means Klett & Cie in Nürnberg

Wrong: barrel Bands, should be Steel, Not brass.

Missing Part of the rearsight

regards, Vladimir.

[Junk Yard Dog]

[bunkysdad]

Wow. What a interesting post. Fun reading.