Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
Does a mosin made at Tula out perform a Izhevsk rifle, or do any certian years do better than others?
1942 M91/30 Izhevsk
1946 M44 Izhevsk
1933 M91/30 Tula Hex
1943 M1895 Revolver Izhevsk
G30 Gen4
Yugo M48 Mauser
Yugo M59/66
Yugo M57 Tokarev
1946 M44 Izhevsk
1933 M91/30 Tula Hex
1943 M1895 Revolver Izhevsk
G30 Gen4
Yugo M48 Mauser
Yugo M59/66
Yugo M57 Tokarev
Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
No and No. You can get a good one from any arsenal and any year. I have a excellant 28 izhevsk and a killer 42 Tula. Same rifle using likely parts from every arsenal and any year. 
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
I have a 1942 91/30 and a 1946 M44 thats both are dead on and from Izhvesk. I guess im a Izhvesk collector 
1942 M91/30 Izhevsk
1946 M44 Izhevsk
1933 M91/30 Tula Hex
1943 M1895 Revolver Izhevsk
G30 Gen4
Yugo M48 Mauser
Yugo M59/66
Yugo M57 Tokarev
1946 M44 Izhevsk
1933 M91/30 Tula Hex
1943 M1895 Revolver Izhevsk
G30 Gen4
Yugo M48 Mauser
Yugo M59/66
Yugo M57 Tokarev
Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
Nice start!!
I may have a 91/30 someplace and a couple of M44s 
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
Specific years and arsenals would tend to only be desired by some collectors. For shooting purposes, current barrel condition would seem to be the key.
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
They all perform the same, only the markings are different.
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
This^^desdem12 wrote: You can get a good one from any arsenal and any year.
And that^^Knuckledragger wrote:Specific years and arsenals would tend to only be desired by some collectors. For shooting purposes, current barrel condition would seem to be the key.
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
WEll now that KD is here then i would say that there is an arsenal that is better....Knuckledraggers

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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
Sestroretsk, Westinghouse or Remington come to mind 
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
VKT, sako, SkY, SAT maybe also. 
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
I just kinda like ALL of them!
Thanks for the "kind" words desdem
Thanks for the "kind" words desdem
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
"Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin"
Absolutely......the one you don't have in your collection yet!......Good hunting!
Dolk
Absolutely......the one you don't have in your collection yet!......Good hunting!
Dolk
Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
The very best one is a Chatellerault! Find a couple of them and you have a Gold Mine!!!!
Bill
PS Did I mention they are very rare and expensive?
PS Did I mention they are very rare and expensive?
Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
Some of the first Mosins were made in France for Russian imperial forces , I do not remember the name of the Factory , those are extremely hard to find . As someone mentioned earlier American made Mosins are not easy to find. Also Izhevsk 1943 are harder to find .
1939 Ижевск 91/30 (round receiver) 1944 Ижевск 91/30 (hex receiver)
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
IMHO the pre-war production of WW1 and WW2 may have an advantage as far as finish and material used goes, you might even have a better bore coming from these years, if the usage is comparable to a wartime produced rifle (which we will never know).But you do not buy these rifles with a numbered report card, sometimes even sight unseen.
My pre-war 1932 Ishevsk Hex and my 1943 Tula Round have appr. the same remaining bore quality and therefore shoot about the same in rifle to rifle competition.....the Tula is 1/2 inch better on 200m, but the older lady beats that on 300m....
You see, as long as they meet our expectations, everything is fine. My son's Tula 33 Hex MO shoots like a clockwork, 5 bangs , one 3-4 group at 100m; gets worse at 200 and can't beat her sisters above. But works and shoots at expectation level. Just imagine what it must have been like to be on the receiving side, all these bullets flying towards you. I cannot imagine any German soldier to take a 200m shoot solution towards a Russian Infantry position NOT seriously.
And then there is the factor of the shooter's capabilities....which may change any factual experience with the same rifle. One of my buddies is a natural: You give him a loaded gun , he will shoot it two times, think about it and then will outshoot almost everybody.
NO MATTER with which Mosin he shoots, I only beat him once on 100m with my preferred Mosin.
All of us here should never forget that we are writing and talking about milsurp and refurbished: You might get lucky buying a good one....or not!
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
No blue sky here this morning !
Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
Hmm...If I had to pick one year and one arsenal as the best I would have to say Tula arsenal, year 1891. That's just me though.... 
Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
Facebook like for thisdesdem12 wrote:VKT, sako, SkY, SAT maybe also.
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Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
The real gist of what everyone is telling with little jokes and teases added is read and find what are rare and search anywhere to find them! Good Luck and remember there are a lot of us out here doing the same thing! Bill 
Re: Any certain arsenal or year better for a mosin
fin made m39's tend to shoot best overall I have seen both izh and tulas shoot good that have like new or brand new barrels.


