2 more carbines
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2 more carbines
I finally found an M38. Even better, it was attached to an M44 in a package deal so I can now field a fireteam of carbines the next time the office goes shooting.
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Nice deal, post was M44, lower production, somewhat harder to find
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I'm amazed by how much heavier the M38 is than the 91/59. I'm going to get them on a postal scale at work but I'm betting there's almost a 1lb difference between them.
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Really.. Wonder why? Arn't they the same size?Groundpounder wrote:I'm amazed by how much heavier the M38 is than the 91/59. I'm going to get them on a postal scale at work but I'm betting there's almost a 1lb difference between them.
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Oil saturation? Less sanding during refurb? Wood density? I have a Hungarian m44 that is heavier and thicker stocked than my Izhevsk m44 and the Hungarian didn't have the bayonet! I have since added the bayonet and it is even heavier.Groundpounder wrote:I'm amazed by how much heavier the M38 is than the 91/59. I'm going to get them on a postal scale at work but I'm betting there's almost a 1lb difference between them.
Groundpounder, this is a great find. Both of these dark stocked carbines compliment each other perfectly.
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Its funny you should mention the weight. I handled two 46 dated non refurb m44s on the same table at a show today. Looked the same but one was noticably heavier and the dealer commented on that.
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I love m38's. I get goosebumps whenever I see one. Haha. Great looking rifles.
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Nice Find. A twofer is always sweet.
I agree about the huns. I think they were made from petrified wood and used as clubs
I agree about the huns. I think they were made from petrified wood and used as clubs
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It's official the M38 is 8.4 lbs and the 91/59 is only 7.3. It's defintitely the density of the wood.
I asked the rifles why the 91/59 was so much lighter and it said, "BLONDES ARE MORE FUN!!!"
I asked the rifles why the 91/59 was so much lighter and it said, "BLONDES ARE MORE FUN!!!"
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Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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Carbines are cool.

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Very nice! I have an M44 but still lust after an M38.
1932 Izhevsk M91/30
1940 Tula M91/30
1941 Tula Nagant Revolver
1942 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M91/30
1944 Izhevsk M44
1952 Polish M44
1954 Chinese T53
1940 Tula M91/30
1941 Tula Nagant Revolver
1942 Tikka M91
1943 Izhevsk M91/30
1944 Izhevsk M44
1952 Polish M44
1954 Chinese T53
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Mike wrote:Very nice! I have an M44 but still lust after an M38.
I have two M 38 and still lust for a M 44.
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Nice find, my favorite gun shop said he was going to faze out his military surplus
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IS he ill mentally or otherwise? Why would a shop do that? Milsurps are a moneymaker if all they carry is four or five, the idea is to attract people in with the cheap Mosin 91/30 offer and then interest them in a $500 pistol, or $800 sporter. The shops around here used to cater to the remchester set, no milsurps in sight, and Mossberg shotguns midden in the back. When the economy tanked so did they, now a new shop has opened and they have a crate of Mosins on prominent display, AK's even a Garand, and are doing well.Buckhead wrote:![]()
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Leave it as it is. The ages have been at work on it and man can only mar it.
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
Theodore Roosevelt
Don't hit at all if it is honorably possible to avoid hitting; but never hit soft.
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maybe he will have some sales?Buckhead wrote:![]()
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Nice find, my favorite gun shop said he was going to faze out his military surplus![]()
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