Am I on the right track thinking laminated stocks

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Am I on the right track thinking laminated stocks

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....were generally replacement stocks for serviceable actions about the end of WWII? And then can be found on arsenal refurbs along with newly assembled weapons for sometime after 1945?

Lapin's book "The Mosin-Nagant Rifle" didn't mention much about laminated stocks. I came to my conclusion by reading old threads, and searching various sites on the web.

Am I OK on my assumption, wrong path or just have no clue? I would appreciate anyone sharing their knowledge about the subject.

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I think you are on the right track. Laminated stocks were post-war as far as I know.
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Laminated stocks were available late war, and were used as replacements after that time, the Germans and the Russians used laminated stocks while we didn't need to, and the Japanese never got the technology off the ground in time to use it despite their desperate shortage of hardwoods. The design of the Enfield used small wood blanks from the start so laminated wood was never needed.
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what worries me is those lamies living in a high moisture area. Currently I live in a valley that holds moisture but it is not near as bad when I lived down state, there I was in a valley close to the joining of 3 rivers and I had to soak my arms in synthetic protectant every other day or the rust would take over. its not a totally fair comparison but OSB with the toughest bonding agents warp and peel within months if left exposed but my rifles are only exposed for 2-8 hours tops. I am probably over paranoid but it still makes me wonder.
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Russia has huge timber resourses. I can't remeber if the early AK's had laminated stocks but they do now. The arsenals must have went to laminated because of durability instead of a shortage of timber. They would have still had to harvest, process and manufacture timber products into laminates. That process is more expensive and labor intensive over using just a block of wood.

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Both the Germans and Soviets experimented with laminates as a way to speed up production, and produce a stronger product, neither side was low on timber reserves like the Japanese.
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I think laminate stocks started on the M38s and moved to the M44 before being used on 91/30s later. :D
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I heard years ago that laminated stocks were tougher and less likely to split. Just like thin plywood is much tougher than a thin piece of solid wood.
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We now know thanks to the activities of The MOSINKID that if you shoot 50-80 rounds all at once without a pause you will char and warp the laminated stock.
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I don't know about the quality of laminated stocks on Mosins, but generaly laminated stock is considered preferable to plain wood stock. It is less likely to warp from absorbing moisture. Most of modern high priced target rifle stocks that are still made of wood, made of laminated wood.
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Best laminated wood story I heard involved knife stocks made from wood taken off the floors of 100 year old horse barn stalls. Seems the horse urine imparted some great color into the wood and was highly prized when sliced and made into laminated wood blanks.
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